yah I have the 505 version I'll try the 602 tried it and it works YAY! hehe thanks... not sure about the turn 2 start... I think there's a wierd quirk but it's been so long I forget.

unfortunately using win 3.1 isn't an option since I don't have win 3.1 (as noted above hehe) win95 I have but I am hoping to be able to run this without installing a second OS let alone an OS under an emulator under an OS lol... but whatever I have to do I guess. BTW thanks for all the info so far …

no idea what filemon is... I'll try the mem alloc thing but I have a feeling dosfreak is right about it being wow since that program gets "stuck" and has to be tasked aftertrying to run xpace.exe... just noticed that. sometimes it'll close on it's own but takes a few minutes.

nope... not sure what that is actually... and I tried a ramdisk so eliminated ntfs... I'm stuck again... mostly I was just hoping it was something simple like that I guess... I'm not particularly knowledgeable about getting older games to run hehe... older DOS games are far easier to work with than …

I guess speed wasn't the issue... with the slowdown at least I get to see that it's failing at the loading stage though so perhaps it's the NTFS causing problems... seems doubtful but it's been a problem before 😒

seems kinda silly to install an entire OS just to run one game... I know it ran under win98 but I'm not sure if it might not be the speed of my system (3Ghz) or the HT cpu or what :/ also I don't have win 3.11 hehe... do have 98 somewhere. probably even 95 if I really hunt through the rubble. ;) was …

thanks 😀 all I could find out was it used visual basic 3 (vbrun300.dll) the game had some really innovative features that are not used even now such as the communications if your out of FTL relay range the signal goes at light speed and such and units take time to change orders etc.

This oldie was written in VB3 for windows but simply goes through the loader process and CTD's every time without a message. I don't know if it's the NTFS drives or windows XP or something else that's causing the problem but I was wondering if anyone else has this program working or might have an …