Re: my modern pci graphics card's (with onboard pci to pci-e reverse bridge) poor performance in P3 rig

Posted on 2014-03-28, 21:23

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by SPBHM

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since he is running the P3 at FSB 151 I would expect the PCI clock to also be overclocked, around 37MHz? should help a little, also the 9250 is an AGP GPU I guess, so no need for bridge chips and so on... my 3d03 CPU result is probably limited by the PCI bus, if you consider a 8400GS would not cause …

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Re: Best setup for running demanding DOS SVGA games

Posted on 2014-03-27, 22:46

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wow....Pentium III and 4? my "fast" DOS machine is a 200mhz mmx Pentium with a awe32 and a PCI s3 trio 64v2/GX and it plays games like Duke3d maxed silky smooth. had no idea you needed that much power for some of those titles. well, I was trying to play Nascar Racing SVGA recently on my pII 400 and …

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Re: Advice on upgrading a socket A platform.

Posted on 2014-03-26, 20:35

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Didn't those offer really crappy performance when it came to AGP? I seem to recall something along those lines. Here's one of those socket 775 boards; http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=4CoreDual-SATA2%20R2.0&s=n A look on ebay sets the prices for those boards between 40 and 70 Euro's. For …

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Re: Advice on upgrading a socket A platform.

Posted on 2014-03-26, 19:03

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with DDR1 and AGP you can go as high as Core 2 Quad if you really want.

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Re: FX5200 vs 9800

Posted on 2014-03-25, 10:42

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The FX5200 is probably one of the worst Nvidia cards ever made. Depends on what videocard u had before it,i remember going from a geforce 2 mx 400 to a fx 5200 and the difference was huge,both in performance but even more in image quality,a lot of games looked better on the fx. yes, as a …

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Re: my modern pci graphics card's poor performance in P3 rig

Posted on 2014-03-24, 04:42

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It looks like that and I will check in detail tomorrow. Are both game versions (8400GS & Voodoo4) same? Books on the shelf are missing in the Voodoo one. I can't believe nvidia graphics cards taking a hit with 8xAA for old titles like HL1. Got to understand more and do some more trial runs with …

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Re: my modern pci graphics card's poor performance in P3 rig

Posted on 2014-03-23, 16:20

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Another thing I noticed, the current steam version of HL1 here is always running with some sort of anti aliasing!? also it looks like the game scales to the desktop resolution (check my 640x480 screenshot), 8400gs vs voodoo 4 attached, I didn't specify the use of AA, the nvidia control panel is …

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Re: my modern pci graphics card's poor performance in P3 rig

Posted on 2014-03-22, 18:48

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@SPBHM, I really appreciate the efforts you are putting to help me identify the cause and the downclocking was damn good thinking. I guess then your conclusion is right about the GPU's with PCI bridge(still don't understand why) & low range CPU. It would be nice to compare it with a native PCI/AGP …

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Re: my modern pci graphics card's poor performance in P3 rig

Posted on 2014-03-22, 12:32

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duh, missed the attachment again. 768p.jpg @SPBHM, I will try both 3dm03 & 05. If I find any win7 system, I will try my gpu. Thanks for sharing your results. I don't have a game save as far as that at the moment but, I've just realized I can underclock my CPU to emulate something closer to the P3 …

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Re: my modern pci graphics card's poor performance in P3 rig

Posted on 2014-03-22, 10:49

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Mine is a Pericom chip. Assuming that the default win7 driver(pci.sys) is sufficient for your PLX chip(couldn't find much in their website, atleast the pericom website had FAQ section), then only the bridge vendor can do something about the code 10 error. Chances are however remote to get any …

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Re: FX5200 vs 9800

Posted on 2014-03-22, 05:02

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FX 5200 at best competes with the 9000 (which had half the pipelines/memory bandwidth or even less), 6800LE should beat the 9800PRO easily, I think it's NV4x with 8 pipelines. but I wouldn't say "light years better", well, maybe you could say that comparing it to the FX 5200 in DX9 games.

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Re: my modern pci graphics card's poor performance in P3 rig

Posted on 2014-03-22, 04:22

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@SPBHM, can you post a report of your windows 7 system generated by the attached system information tool? siv.zip Thank the stars that you also have the steam version and pleasing to see your results. Yeah it was the same location where i got the dip. I will have to reinstall steam and half life as …

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Re: my modern pci graphics card's poor performance in P3 rig

Posted on 2014-03-21, 06:33

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I only managed to run the demo1, since I'm using the steam version, demo1 OpenGL - default 8400GS PCI 1024x768 208.869 seconds 108.317 fps 8400GS PCI 18% core/memory OC 1024x768 179.995 seconds 125.692 fps 8400GS PCI 1024x768 AA8x 344.966 seconds 65.583 fps 8400GS PCI 18% core/memory OC 1024x768 …

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Re: my modern pci graphics card's poor performance in P3 rig

Posted on 2014-03-20, 15:59

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Youtube has changed over the years. Several years ago, we could of watched youtube with a P3, or a 1.8 ghz single core. But these days with what they've changed to youtube and what it requires from hardware today, you're not going to see 720p full screen without something around a 2.4 - 3 ghz dual …

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Re: my modern pci graphics card's poor performance in P3 rig

Posted on 2014-03-20, 09:56

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@SPBHM, I bought the GT520 PCI thinking i will be able to play games made upto 2001 atleast, which was the time i got my P3 system. On paper, the performance of GT520 PCI should be atleast equivalent, if not better, to that of 8400GS PCI. I don't ask much, only to be able to play games like Half …

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Re: P3 1ghz + FX5950 + 512mb SDRam Games Limit!

Posted on 2014-03-19, 16:07

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a friend used to play Doom 3 with a 1.1GHz Coppermine, it worked well enough. actually I think the FX5950 will be a bigger problem for doom 3 than the p3 or 512mb if you go for high settings and 1024x768 or higher.

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Re: my modern pci graphics card's poor performance in P3 rig

Posted on 2014-03-19, 08:42

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2d bus transfer rate is abnormally low. sorry about the long wait, I haven't really read the newer posts so I don't know if this is still relevant, but since I did some testing... let me share a few results I have here; PC used was a Sempron 1.8GHz (Venice, K8 with 256K l2) chipset was the SiS …

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Re: my modern pci graphics card's poor performance in P3 rig

Posted on 2014-02-15, 02:59

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hi idspispopd, i'm afraid i can't get old pci based graphics cards near my place. i have already spent a good amount on this graphics card and want to find out what the issue is. if it is a driver issue then i'm doomed. i have to keep trying till the p3 rig lives(already did a complete recap). hi …

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Re: my modern pci graphics card's poor performance in P3 rig

Posted on 2014-02-14, 11:14

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5400 sounds like a decent result for a P3 system, I think "final reality" measures the PCI speed what have you done with the bios? I can't get my 8400GS to work with my P2B. but I think it's better to go with an AGP card, Geforce 4 TI was already to fast for P3 imo.

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Re: Phil's Ultimate VGA Benchmark Database Project

Posted on 2014-02-13, 04:08

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posted the results from my PII, I'm also trying fastvid, but while it gives a huge performance boost (like 2x on the first test) it's adding some graphical problems when I enable Banked VGA write combining (random small horizontal lines)

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