Re: Benchmarking tool thats fairly even across the GeForce 6/7/8 series cards?

Posted on 2016-07-10, 22:46

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Crysis on low is quite ugly but I think it only uses SM2.0, even a 9700 can run it, it might run well enough with the 6800 on low. Indeed. But GPU is not the only thing you need to run Crysis :) 9800 XT stock (4GHz) mini.png And yes, GPU is overclocked a bit, but still - 1280x1024 on Low with …

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Re: Ladies & Gentlemen I present to you BlackMagic

Posted on 2016-07-10, 21:40

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Great work in getting it all together ! Crazy setup. But you know... it may be a little... tiny... bit CPU Bottlenecked in that 3DMark 01 SE. Here's my experimental Windows 98 SE setup with Win XP and FX 5950 Ultra (not OC'ed) for comparison : Filename 3DMark01 SE 4GHz mini.png File size 475.49 KiB …

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Re: Benchmarking tool thats fairly even across the GeForce 6/7/8 series cards?

Posted on 2016-07-10, 20:30

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Indeed drivers for Win 7 x64 SP1 are broken for 6800 series. My 6800 Ultra REALLY does not like it. 7900 GTX is fine Crysis @ Medium with 1024x768 = Avg. 24,5FPS. 3DMark 03 is good for comparison with older GPU's, other than that... there is Codecreatures Benchmark Pro. For high end cards of it's …

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Re: Benchmarking tool thats fairly even across the GeForce 6/7/8 series cards?

Posted on 2016-07-10, 13:54

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I think having Crysis is worth droping 6200 😀 It should work OK on 6600/7300 (GT). How many cards you want to actually test ?

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Re: Benchmarking tool thats fairly even across the GeForce 6/7/8 series cards?

Posted on 2016-07-10, 12:40

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F.E.A.R. (1) : build-in Quake III Arena : build-in timedemo (for "Leveling the playing field" purpose) - usefull if you got CPU power 😀 Crysis : +Crysis Benchmark Tool What programs crash ? I hope U got monster CPU to power 8800 GTX 😀 Windows 7 or XP ?

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Re: Give me idea's

Posted on 2016-07-10, 10:56

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1) Disable AHCI driver in register while trying to boot in AHCI mode. He get's half a point for doing IDE compatible, and full score if he repairs reg file and switches to AHCI :) 2) Put old BIOS so that MB will get "upset" it's got unrecognised CPU :) (BIOS update from BIOS/DOS utility training). …

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Re: What's the hardest part of building a retro rig for yourself?

Posted on 2016-07-10, 10:13

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Installing updates for windows 7, 8.1 (My god when does it end) No kidding. Updating a fresh install of Win7 is just awful nowadays. I've found that installing KB3083710, KB3102810, and KB3161664 manually can help get Windows Update working much faster. However, you might want to uninstall …

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Re: What is your biggest Pentium 4 Collection?

Posted on 2016-07-09, 21:36

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Mirror mirror, on the wall... Which is the hottest Prescott of them all... LINK C0 is the hottest, second place is D0 (probably a C0 with better avg. quality of wafers that enabled Intel to lower Vcore and reduce temps). Then we have E0 (with NX-Bit/64-bit support, still hot-ish at high freq.) and …

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Re: What is your biggest Pentium 4 Collection?

Posted on 2016-07-09, 20:07

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3,4GHz Northwood : LINK 3,4GHz Prescott : LINK Cooling them is main problem. Even Northood at 3,2GHz (w/HT) will get hot without proper air flow. Nortwood also can't go much further (3,6-3,8GHz usually) + the SNDS thing... Prescott's rev. C0/D0 are Really Bad (and you can get those in 3,2GHz and 3, …

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Re: Can I air sucessfully cool an AMD FX 9590 220W cpu with 9000RPM case fans

Posted on 2016-07-09, 10:31

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U need more than just a silly high RPM FAN. But short answer is : Yes, you can :) I air cooled Pentium Extreme Edition 965 @ 4,8-4,93GHz (Vcore 1,55V+) : LINK , with one FFB1212EHE - like this : LINK and Thermalright 120 Ultra Extreme cooler. I'm pretty sure, I was in 250-300W TDP territory ;) Keep …

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Re: Building yet another Windows 98 SE Box

Posted on 2016-07-08, 23:49

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I thought about getting a X6800 for its unlocked multiplier, 6-12 I believe, and doing a BSEL mod to force it to 800 MHz FSB to avoid overclocking chipset. Then I could go from 600-2400 MHz easily but it doesn't seem worth it. X6800 has A LOT higher max multiplier. Think x30 or more (at least from …

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Re: What's the hardest part of building a retro rig for yourself?

Posted on 2016-07-08, 23:05

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In my case, it's all about "what will be next project"... when I didn't completed testing the current one 😒

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Re: What is your biggest Pentium 4 Collection?

Posted on 2016-07-08, 17:34

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Yes. On normal boards like P4P800 they are locked at 1600MHz (133MHz x 12) and SL627 does not have HT enabled. Source : LINK (it's german site, so google translator is recommended for those that do not speaking german 😉).

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Re: Top hardware by year

Posted on 2016-07-08, 08:58

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OK, so I made my sheet editable if you want to use it, but idk, maybe it should be hosted by the OP. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bhlr_yCIkL0rVsntBG_S7nw6xxZoHF1uXmA-Gxq44jM I added last 20Y of CPU/GPU to the table. I think I got everything right :) EDIT : I corrected Pentium Pro/Pentium …

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Re: What is your biggest Pentium 4 Collection?

Posted on 2016-07-08, 06:38

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I did a LGA 775 project two years ago which "required" a few Pentium 4's (LGA 775 only kind). Also, I don't count in Pentium D's or Celeron D's (as they don't have "4" in name ;)). All CPU's from the list were bought by me (I didn't get them for free). The list : Gallatin 2x Pentium Extreme Edition …

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Re: Where does the bottleneck begin? Ideal video card for a 1.4ghz piii?

Posted on 2016-07-07, 21:12

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I think unofficial ones are based on 81.89, but with NV4_DISP file compiled from 93.71. So, if something doesn't work on 81.89, it probably won't on moded ones either. More info (with quirks) can be found here : LINK They work "OK-ish" for me so far (with persisting few bugs, like shutdown problem …

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Re: Incredible how even fairly modern processors don't cut it

Posted on 2016-07-07, 06:11

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I think sse2 push is for speed. Sure, you can make sse2 code into sse1, but it may be unusable because of execution speed. Also, testing modern programs on p3's and athlon xp's will be "a pain" from devs standpoint. I know that steam requires sse2, but you should be able to overcome that limitation …

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Re: Where does the bottleneck begin? Ideal video card for a 1.4ghz piii?

Posted on 2016-07-07, 05:57

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Last to support win 98 is 6800 ultra (official drivers) and 7950 gx2 (if you use moded ones). Filename 3DMark01 SE.png File size 262.94 KiB Views 419 views

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Re: My 3DMark01 Mega Thread

Posted on 2016-07-06, 21:52

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I was too fast to conlusion... THIS is the craziest Win 98 SE setup 😀 Filename 3DMark01 SE.png File size 262.94 KiB Views 1829 views Additional test : Filename SiSoft Sandra 99.png File size 250.47 KiB Views 1821 views

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Re: 7-zip benchmarks for over 60 CPUs

Posted on 2016-07-06, 12:56

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Underutilised CPU = higher score when it's forced to do more in the same ammount of time. Also, memory performance sucks on i3 5xx/6xx CPU's, because they use 32nm CPU core's with 45nm L3 + IMC. They are connected to eachother via QPI which can't handle IMC request fast enough (at standard frequency …

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