Re: The story of the QuForce FX 5800 Ultra...

Posted on 2021-01-12, 16:59

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by slivercr

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I was lucky enough to get one FX3000 in good conditions. I am testing it extensively and I get around 6000point in 3dMark01 with a single P-III 700Mhz (100Mhz FSB) on a p2b-D. Is it worth to change it to a Geforce? I mean... : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4tOBgoMuwM I am a bit confused by this …

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Re: Hello, World! :D - Robert B's PC builds - oogle away freely :)

Posted on 2020-12-29, 00:43

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by slivercr

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That FX5900 looks brand new! Great stuff!

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Re: Slot 1 Pentium II Windows 95 Build - In Progress

Posted on 2020-12-29, 00:32

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by slivercr

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Its looking good! If you're open to suggestions, I would say a USB2 card with front panel headers is very convenient. What are you using the CF for, storage, OS?

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Re: Socket 775 system revival story. Bonus: In-place upgrade of a 12-year old Vista install *PICS*

Posted on 2020-12-21, 15:24

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by slivercr

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Which was the initial goal of AMD K6. K5 just couldn't compete with Pentium in Mhz race. Sure, I'm not questioning AMD's goal with K6. I'm questioning your claim that intel wanted to mimic K6, when the decision to boost frequencies is, per the article above, a marketing decision ( which I presume …

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Re: Socket 775 system revival story. Bonus: In-place upgrade of a 12-year old Vista install *PICS*

Posted on 2020-12-20, 21:11

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by slivercr

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As I mentioned earlier, Intel certainly took some notes from K6 CPUs (and later from 3DNow). AMD did the same trick, when they've realized that K5 couldn't scale much. And they did it again much later with FX series, but manufacturing process wasn't on their side this time. But still, they …

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Re: Socket 775 system revival story. Bonus: In-place upgrade of a 12-year old Vista install *PICS*

Posted on 2020-12-20, 14:03

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by slivercr

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@Warlord, thanks for the link, the whole article (including part1) was a nice read. While I still stand by most of my opinions—I don't think the P4 is a failed architecture, just a different paradigm—I will revise my statement about it as follows; The P4 was really just a product of its time, …

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Re: Socket 775 system revival story. Bonus: In-place upgrade of a 12-year old Vista install *PICS*

Posted on 2020-12-20, 03:09

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by slivercr

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"Revelations from former members of the P4's design team, as well as my own off-the-record conversations with Intel folks, all indicate that the P4's design was the result of a marketing-driven focus on clock speeds at the expense of actual performance and scalability. " source https://arstechnica. …

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Re: Socket 775 system revival story. Bonus: In-place upgrade of a 12-year old Vista install *PICS*

Posted on 2020-12-20, 00:37

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by slivercr

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AMD had to do something (PR rating), otherwise they wouldn't be able to compete with raw frequency of P4, even though that number didn't make Intel necessarily faster. Unfortunately, for most people, it always comes down to one simple number (GHz, MPix, GB of VRAM, etc.). I really can't blame AMD …

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Re: Socket 775 system revival story. Bonus: In-place upgrade of a 12-year old Vista install *PICS*

Posted on 2020-12-19, 16:44

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by slivercr

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I currently use my core 2 quad box as an overpowered windows XP machine as well. But, it certainly has some legs, and would still do a surprising amount of the stuff I need to do today with OK performance. Running Vista or Windows 7, or even windows 10, really isn't bad at all on it. Likewise, …

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Re: Socket 775 system revival story. Bonus: In-place upgrade of a 12-year old Vista install *PICS*

Posted on 2020-12-18, 03:17

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by slivercr

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The Serpent Rider wrote on 2020-12-18, 03:12: The P4 was really just a product of its time Eh, not exactly. Similar CPUs were made before (AMD K6) and after (IBM PowerPC G5) Netburst release. All three were banking on SIMD and other specific optimizations to negate drawbacks of long pipeline. Did …

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Re: Socket 775 system revival story. Bonus: In-place upgrade of a 12-year old Vista install *PICS*

Posted on 2020-12-18, 02:50

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by slivercr

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Not mean to be condescending. I just don't do TLDRs. No one would read it. :thumbup_tone3: ... The only way intel could compete is by ramping up clock speeds. Remember they said that the P4 architecture could reach 10ghz? It's unfortunate that the company decided to listen to its marketing …

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Re: Socket 775 system revival story. Bonus: In-place upgrade of a 12-year old Vista install *PICS*

Posted on 2020-12-18, 01:25

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by slivercr

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P4 is nothing more than a failed architecture and basically a engineering mistake. Wikipedia says that much. Pentium Ms launched in 2003 and are nothing like a P4, which essentially is the predecessor for the C2d. Oh boy. For a failed architecture, a lot of P4 technology has been used elsewhere ( …

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Re: Socket 775 system revival story. Bonus: In-place upgrade of a 12-year old Vista install *PICS*

Posted on 2020-12-17, 22:54

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by slivercr

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P4 is nothing more than a failed architecture and basically a engineering mistake. Wikipedia says that much. Pentium Ms launched in 2003 and are nothing like a P4, which essentially is the predecessor for the C2d. Oh boy. For a failed architecture, a lot of P4 technology has been used elsewhere ( …

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Re: Let's talk about our hated trends

Posted on 2020-12-17, 16:20

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by slivercr

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- Retro console/pc releases which are nothing but a hunk of plastic with a shitty emulator in them along with a very selective library of games and no support for original copies of the games. I've thought about this as well. I really used to hate that every generation Nintendo gets to sell their …

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Re: Outrigger: an ongoing adventure with the OR840

Posted on 2020-12-17, 00:04

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by slivercr

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Thanks LB. I have 2 SL4BS cpus. https://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SL4BS.html those have on die cache, theres doesn't seem to be overclocking options for or840, at least not on the Intel/IBM/reference motherboard. The north bridge one might work with elbo fittings for the hoses. I was talking in …

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Re: Let's talk about our hated trends

Posted on 2020-12-16, 18:02

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by slivercr

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- The disregard for backwards compatibility for both consoles and computers. - No more Demos of games, everything now is done through "influencer" Let's Players, who of course will only say nice things about the game to continue getting free early access to them. - Fake pixel graphics. Every " …

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Re: Socket 775 system revival story. Bonus: In-place upgrade of a 12-year old Vista install *PICS*

Posted on 2020-12-16, 17:49

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by slivercr

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Caluser2000 wrote on 2020-12-16, 17:09: How come it took 5 hours to do the upgrade? I was wondering about this too. OP says (s)he doesn't like wasting time reinstalling programs, and upgrading took 5h? 💯

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Re: Outrigger: an ongoing adventure with the OR840

Posted on 2020-12-16, 12:44

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by slivercr

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... be warned, on early slot-1 boards, the L2 cache was external to the cpu and benefits from active cooling overclocking. In fact, i'd say keeping the L2 cache cool is MORE important to overclocking than the cpu core. For sure! Oveclocking Klamath, Deschutes, and Katmai, is basically an exercise …

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Re: Outrigger: an ongoing adventure with the OR840

Posted on 2020-12-16, 05:57

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by slivercr

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So, custom cooling solution for the OR840. I've been saying I'd do something about it for a couple of years now , most likely design and print something. Well, today I finally started. The first step was modeling some Slot 1 CPU brackets, which were notoriously absent from thingiverse :shrug_tone4: …

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Re: Has any one delidded a Pentium 3 Tualatin?

Posted on 2020-12-05, 19:33

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by slivercr

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I have delidded Tualatins. It allows them to use any CuMine heatsink without bending any bracket. P3-s 1400 may be uncommon, but Tualatin as a family is definitely NOT rare.

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