Re: which specs would you recommend for a gaming rig that can cover the whole DOS area

Posted on 2023-09-25, 19:23

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by Socket3

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My choice would be a fast VIA C3 like the 1200A Nemiah paired with a VIA VT82C694X or 694T chipset board with one ISA slot and official Nemiah support. Thanks for you recommendation. I have not considered getting a Via C3 Cpu or the A better (and difficult but awesome) alternative would be pairing …

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Re: VIA C3 1200A (nemiah) vs Celeron Tualatin 1000 vs Pentium III-S 1400 512K - short review, features and performance d

Posted on 2023-09-25, 18:33

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by Socket3

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3DMark01 score with the C3 clocked at 1200 seems a bit low for a ti4200.... probably because the motherboard does not officially support the Nemiah. Let me elaborate on that: - i've noticed that motherboards with no official support for Nemiah - be it Intel or VIA chipset - perform quite poorly. …

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Re: VIA C3 1200A (nemiah) vs Celeron Tualatin 1000 vs Pentium III-S 1400 512K - short review, features and performance d

Posted on 2023-09-24, 18:37

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by Socket3

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Here are some not-real world application, but actual same-clock benchmarks of these processors. Using 3DMark2001SE. https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=52819&p=569581#p569581 3DMark01 score with the C3 clocked at 1200 seems a bit low for a ti4200.... probably because the motherboard does …

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Re: VIA C3 1200A (nemiah) vs Celeron Tualatin 1000 vs Pentium III-S 1400 512K - short review, features and performance d

Posted on 2023-09-23, 20:31

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by Socket3

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I've found the Nehemiah to behave like a Coppermine clocked at half the frequency when it comes to 3D games. I have my C3 1200 running at 1466MHz and it performs about as well as a PIII 733, sometimes a little better even. Ok so I found a 750Mhz Pentium 3 coppermine at the flea market today. It …

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Re: Low FPS in two games not sure why?

Posted on 2023-09-23, 11:22

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by Socket3

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The only good use for a p3 is to be a socket protector before putting a via c3 in there. :D :D :D mean, but kind of accurate. The only skt 370 P3's I've been satisfied with in 1999-2000(ish) games are the 1400MHz P3-S 512k and an overclocked Tualeron 1200 running at 1600MHz (12x133). On the other …

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Re: VIA C3 1200A (nemiah) vs Celeron Tualatin 1000 vs Pentium III-S 1400 512K - short review, features and performance d

Posted on 2023-09-22, 20:32

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by Socket3

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Conclusions: - the Pentium 3-S 1400 is a MONSTER. In some tests is managed to overtake the 1000MHz tualeron by 20-33%. Let me disagree. But in terms of pure frequency, P3-S outperforms Tualeron by 40%. The frequency difference is obvious, and by that metric the C3 is 20% faster then the tualeron, …

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Re: which specs would you recommend for a gaming rig that can cover the whole DOS area

Posted on 2023-09-22, 08:00

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by Socket3

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My choice would be a fast VIA C3 like the 1200A Nemiah paired with a VIA VT82C694X or 694T chipset board with one ISA slot and official Nemiah support.

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Re: VIA C3 support

Posted on 2023-09-22, 06:48

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by Socket3

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"Older timing sensitive games" with a 933mhz cpu? There are c3 motherboards on ebay, as well as rhin clients. My Wyse c3 based (iirc) tc wouldn't boot NT under certain circumstances. Do a search for "industrial motherboard" or "industrial computer". Some items are spanking new last I checked. C3 …

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Re: VIA C3 support

Posted on 2023-09-21, 20:06

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by Socket3

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Hi! I’ve found this motherboard for sale: https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/pcpartner-mvp3bs7-954-35-8954-00-01#downloads Have a couple of questions if someone could help me to decide wether this is a good motherboard for my needs. I do have a PIII 650 with a Voodoo 3 2000 which works great. …

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Re: VIA C3 1200A (nemiah) vs Celeron Tualatin 1000 vs Pentium III-S 1400 512K - short review, features and performance d

Posted on 2023-09-21, 19:26

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by Socket3

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Conclusions: - The FX 5200 really does not like slow CPUs. On both the C3 and the Celeron there was noticeable stuttering in UT99 and 3DMark 01. In 3dmark the framerate was all over the place, more so on the Tualeron 1000 - probably because it allowed for higher max FPS. Not a video card I'd …

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VIA C3 1200A (nemiah) vs Celeron Tualatin 1000 vs Pentium III-S 1400 512K - short review, features and performance data

Posted on 2023-09-21, 19:25

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by Socket3

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Hey guys. I took a couple of days off and decided to test and repair some socket 370 motherboards I recently aquired. While testing I noticed one of the boards (EPOX EP-3VSA2) is fully compatible with the C3 Nemiah core (the others are unfortunately only officially compatible with the slower Samuel …

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2023-09-21, 11:34

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by Socket3

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At this point it seems luck avoids me, the oldest board I could score were a MSI K8T Neo + a artefacting NX6600GT. The oldest chip I could get was a Deschutes 266 w/ AVID fan and thermal sensor though, so that's a neat thing to find. Lady luck can be a fickle mistress... I got this haul recently, …

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2023-09-21, 10:17

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by Socket3

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Got lucky at the flea market this past couple of months so I tought I'd share some of my findings. 386 motherboard with L2 cache and an AMD 386-DX40 sitting on some kind of interposer - untested, but looks like it's all there, and I can't see any corrosion. No barrel battery witch is a plus, but on …

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Re: Building a 486 VLB system

Posted on 2023-09-08, 13:35

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by Socket3

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2) Unless you have a decent VLB video card, not some typical Cirrus Logic 542x kind of trash, your experience will be limiting and tied to VGA (320x200) era mostly. Even Warcraft II will be a slog. Never had any performance, stability or compatibility issues with cirrus logic cards. At least not …

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Re: What is the biggest storage HDD Windows 98SE can use?

Posted on 2023-09-01, 18:43

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by Socket3

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P.S. - I've also had problems with network transfer speeds over win9x networking. It seems to be limited to about 1.5-2MB / second (gross estimate), regardless of what LAN card I used. This limitation seems to apply to USB devices as well, as I've never been able to benefit from USB 2.0 speeds, …

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Re: What is the biggest storage HDD Windows 98SE can use?

Posted on 2023-09-01, 16:32

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by Socket3

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Using Paragon NTFS I was able to open and read stuff off my 2TB external disk drives (single 2TB partition), but it takes forever to access the drive - over one minute - and as soon as I connected the HDD the computer slowed to a crawl until it was able to index the partition. Browsing files/folders …

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Re: Cedar Mill in early 775 motherboards

Posted on 2023-08-29, 17:58

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by Socket3

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maybe they're not "single core only" boards? If not, then what would be a single core only board? There is even a 865-based board that supports Core2Quad processors. Unlike 865 which offers interesting options, 915/925/X/XE is mostly a dead-end. Interesting. I've yet to come across one such i915/ …

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Re: Cedar Mill in early 775 motherboards

Posted on 2023-08-27, 21:12

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by Socket3

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Here's my result with P4 651 (SL9KE) and P5GD1 on Win10 x64 after patching the bios with F65 micro code: also avoid P4 661 (SL96H), it has the same vrm spec as Pentium D and will not post on any single core motherboard. 651.jpg That's odd - my P4 661 and 670 work fine on both my Foxconn 865G7MF and …

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2023-08-27, 20:50

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by Socket3

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No pics because it needs surgery first, but got a LuckyTech P6VBX7. If the TRW wants hi-res photos of it as is, let me know and I'll take some as soon as I get home. Socket 370 on Baby-AT form factor? Wow, I haven't seen one in my lifetime. :smiley: Learning new stuff everyday. I had a couple of …

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Re: Unidentified Socket 3 motherboard. (Probably IBM)

Posted on 2023-08-24, 17:59

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by Socket3

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looks like it came out of an IBM Valuepoint 466DX At first I tought it came from an Aptiva but to my knowledge those come with Cirrus Logics on board video and socketed cache chips. But the AT connector is in another location on the Valuepoint 466DX. At least on my unit.

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