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Re: Tips for building (or starting to build) a retro DOS/98/XP PC under a $100 budget?

Posted on 2023-09-10, 01:35

For 98SE, would a K8V-MX be a good motherboard? Let's see what others more knowledgeable than me have to say, but at first glance, seems reasonable - VIA chipset, Asus has 98SE drivers for it on their web site, AGP, 2 PATA channels (and SATA). I was going to say the same thing. It's newer than …

Re: Tips for building (or starting to build) a retro DOS/98/XP PC under a $100 budget?

Posted on 2023-09-10, 01:26

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

ChrisNonyminus wrote on 2023-09-10, 01:18: For 98SE, would a K8V-MX be a good motherboard? Let's see what others more knowledgeable than me have to say, but at first glance, seems reasonable - VIA chipset, Asus has 98SE drivers for it on their web site, AGP, 2 PATA channels (and SATA).

Re: VLB with newer chipsets

Posted on 2023-09-10, 01:12

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

I'm new to 486 era stuff (I'm a bit "too young", my very first PC was PII 450 based) but I want my 486 rig. It's less about the hardware and more about the software - that PII 450, that probably ran... Win98? Your 486, I presume, you're going to want to go DOS (and to a small extent Windows 3.1?)? …

Re: Tips for building (or starting to build) a retro DOS/98/XP PC under a $100 budget?

Posted on 2023-09-10, 00:59

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

So as suggested, I'm going to build a retro 98/XP PC from scratch and avoid any of that era's store PCs. I'm looking at either an LGA775 (Core 2 Duo, later P4s and Celerons, etc) machine or a Socket 754 (Athlon 64 single core) machine. I was told that, because I want to run 9x, multi-core CPUs such …

Re: Tips for building (or starting to build) a retro DOS/98/XP PC under a $100 budget?

Posted on 2023-09-09, 22:35

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

I dont know I have been given a lot of prebuilts and most of them are trash, the older they are they better components they seem to have but most things after 2000s went under severe cost cutting methods. (I'm looking at you Dell and some Gateway) While some of the smaller prebuilts from lesser …

Re: Tips for building (or starting to build) a retro DOS/98/XP PC under a $100 budget?

Posted on 2023-09-09, 21:33

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

What software do you want to run on this? XP or 98SE? Both. There's another recent thread about this where I think we convinced the OP to build a separate/newer system for XP. There's plenty of cheap C2D/C2Qs, Sandy Bridges, Ivy Bridges, AMD 7970s, etc floating around that will make a dramatically …

Re: Tips for building (or starting to build) a retro DOS/98/XP PC under a $100 budget?

Posted on 2023-09-09, 21:28

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Here is my view: if you want to do this with a brand name machine, look for an old-fashioned Dell, Gateway, etc. (Not sure when Gateway got out of the old-fashioned custom PC business) I had a Dell PIII from 2000, it had nothing on the motherboard, not even sound, video, network, etc. Just lots of …

Re: Tips for building (or starting to build) a retro DOS/98/XP PC under a $100 budget?

Posted on 2023-09-09, 21:17

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

What software do you want to run on this? XP or 98SE?

Re: VLB with newer chipsets

Posted on 2023-09-09, 18:06

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Even though it was present on boards 1992-1996 it had very little attention after 1993 which really stumped owners of systems with vlb wasting their investment. Comparatively PCI (1993) had an extremely long life. But VLB you didn’t have many upgrade options, I upgraded out of my 1995 era dx2-66 to …

Re: Some questions about IBM PS/2 Models

Posted on 2023-09-09, 17:08

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

PCs were also an oddity, if you look at the history of IBM. IBM making products for small businesses or even consumers? Before 1980s that was pretty much unheard of. IBM PC and its successors (PS/2s, PS/1s, Aptivas etc.) were not something that IBM has been traditionally building their business on. …

Re: Some questions about IBM PS/2 Models

Posted on 2023-09-09, 16:36

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

The same thing happens to almost every industry. Look at the innovation with cars in the early years. Now, the industry is just a couple players. Granted electric is a shake-up, but that's just a change under the hood. The vehicle equation is SOLVED. we know what it takes to make a car, how to make …

Re: Windows 98se Dual Channel memory

Posted on 2023-09-09, 16:13

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Maybe I'm completely wrong here, but I would have thought dual-channel memory is a memory controller/BIOS thing, not an OS thing. If, with the same BIOS settings, same memory, same everything, you boot a more modern OS, what does it say about your dual channel memory? I would wonder whether the …

Re: Some questions about IBM PS/2 Models

Posted on 2023-09-09, 14:12

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

The short answer is; because prior to the 5150 IBM had a vise-grip on the computer industry, they wanted to keep control at any cost and thus profits high. Remember the Apple 1984 commercial? Ironically, the 5150 did that to IBM. A computer that could be cloned easily, and had every software dev …

Re: Gateway 2000 slim 486 DX/66 questions

Posted on 2023-09-08, 23:41

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

I think what I will do is leave the wimodem for the 486 for BBS'ing. Which I got working. The DB25 port was inactive, so I used a DB9 converter and it's working flawlessly. Wait a second here... DB25 port on... what? The 486? On most 486es, wouldn't the serial ports be DB9 and the parallel ports …

Re: Some questions about a LGA775 Win98 build using PCIe graphics

Posted on 2023-09-08, 23:37

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

There was another amusing bug (which got fixed), I forget if it was in Win98, Win98 SE or Win95 where it would crash after... 49.7 days of uptime. That would be equivalent to 2 ^ 32 milliseconds: 4,294,967,296 / 1000 / 86400 = 49.71026 962 So there must be a timer counting uptime with milliseconds …

Re: Some questions about a LGA775 Win98 build using PCIe graphics

Posted on 2023-09-08, 22:59

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Win98SE will crash during the second part of the installation if you have more than 1 GB RAM. This is one of those hugely amusing Win98 SE bugs. There was another amusing bug (which got fixed), I forget if it was in Win98, Win98 SE or Win95 where it would crash after... 49.7 days of uptime. Both of …

Re: Building a 486 VLB system

Posted on 2023-09-08, 20:14

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

CL-GD5428 VLB + 486DX2-66 is a pretty archetypal 486 Another nice thing about the 486DX2-66 is that it is the last CPU where the 486 was at the top of the x86 world as opposed to being a budget Pentium alternative The 486DX2/66 is just one of those processors that i) it seems like everybody had, ii …

Re: GA-G41M-ES2H - decent idea for Win98 SE?

Posted on 2023-09-08, 18:06

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Just curious, would you please post a pic of your device manager? How many devices do you have with exclamation marks? If it's of interest, I just completed my new Win98SE build using a LGA775 motherboard with PCIe graphics and only have a single exclamation mark in device manager. Details here . I …

Re: Dual Pentium 133: what to use it for?

Posted on 2023-09-05, 23:59

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Games... Why does every computer build come down to games? What games can it play and how well? Yes, games and music mostly. But i can't think of someone being nostalgic about Borland C++ Builder, Citrix MetaFrame or MS Works. IE 5.5/Netscape Navigator, Java Applets, Popups from hell over a V.92 …

Re: Mac SE/30 with parallel printer? With modern printer?

Posted on 2023-09-05, 22:32

by VivienM

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

First, I would suggest asking for help on a vintage Mac forum instead... Second, back in the day, there were people who sold Mac serial to parallel adapters along with Mac drivers for a range of printers you might want to use. I remember reading about those in Mac magazines in the early 1990s - you …

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Re: Tips for building (or starting to build) a retro DOS/98/XP PC under a $100 budget?

Re: Tips for building (or starting to build) a retro DOS/98/XP PC under a $100 budget?

Re: VLB with newer chipsets

Re: Tips for building (or starting to build) a retro DOS/98/XP PC under a $100 budget?

Re: Tips for building (or starting to build) a retro DOS/98/XP PC under a $100 budget?

Re: Tips for building (or starting to build) a retro DOS/98/XP PC under a $100 budget?

Re: Tips for building (or starting to build) a retro DOS/98/XP PC under a $100 budget?

Re: Tips for building (or starting to build) a retro DOS/98/XP PC under a $100 budget?

Re: VLB with newer chipsets

Re: Some questions about IBM PS/2 Models

Re: Some questions about IBM PS/2 Models

Re: Windows 98se Dual Channel memory

Re: Some questions about IBM PS/2 Models

Re: Gateway 2000 slim 486 DX/66 questions

Re: Some questions about a LGA775 Win98 build using PCIe graphics

Re: Some questions about a LGA775 Win98 build using PCIe graphics

Re: Building a 486 VLB system

Re: GA-G41M-ES2H - decent idea for Win98 SE?

Re: Dual Pentium 133: what to use it for?

Re: Mac SE/30 with parallel printer? With modern printer?