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Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-14, 23:00

Dominus, how would a scaler show more of the drawing on the screen at once? PCAD would still only be displaying 640x480 pixels worth of the schematic or PCB layout. It would simply be bigger, with the scaler. Unless I'm not understanding what you mean... HAL, thanks for the word on dosbox not …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-14, 22:30

HAL, That might be a good guess though. It correlates with the message that PCAD put at the bottom of the screen. Perhaps the specific wording of that message -was- meaningful....i.e. "security device PORT not found". :wink: re: VESA stuff... Right now, dosbox is opening a sub-screen 640x480 window …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-14, 21:12

Yup, working fine!! You guys are great. Thanks to HAL, WD, Qbix, Aklerion, TeaRex, et al. Really appreciate you looking into this and figuring out a way to make it work. Please satisfy my engineer's curiousity....what do you think is different between the two dosbox versions which is making it work …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-14, 20:39

It works! thanks for the link Qbix. funny effect....after exiting PCAD, the mouse isn't working any more. No cursor. And the weird thing is that it's gone bad even over -other- windows on the screen. I don't think I've ever encountered anything before which 'breaks" the mouse in win2k for anything …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-14, 20:19

You did it ! No, you couldn't have drawn unless it was working. The display of "dongle not found" message, occurs immediately upon the graphics-editor opening. Yup, you have it working all right. As far as mouse not working, Qbix just noted that doxbox is emulating ps2mouse, not serial. So that …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-14, 20:03

hal, if you mean Pcad's serial mouse driver, then yes, you're right of course. It needs to find the port in order to read the mouse. fwiw, both mouse and security-device are set to com1 in the pccaps.cfg file. This is normal, and does not cause any problem on a DOS machine. Presumably, DoxBox is …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-14, 19:51

Alkerion, Attached is a RAR file of the minimum needed to get PCAD to the stage where it enters the graphics editor and puts the message at the bottom of "security device port failure". Note: in the other module (not included here) for editing PCB instead of schematic, the error msg is slightly …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-14, 19:12

hi Moe, I think you've hit on a part of the problem. The use of "in crowd" language; when normal terms would do fine. Just saying "try one of the beta versions on the CVS page" would carry the right meaning to a lot more people. I think that a lot more people know what a "beta" is than what a "CVS" …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-14, 18:12

ps; please forget I said anything about the problems with open-source presentation and communications. It was not a valid part of this thread. I was just at a peak of frustration that day. I will go back and edit it away; if that's desired. My apologies for getting off-track. And again thanks to …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-14, 17:45

Dead right: SourceForge is a collaboration tool for programmers. What you describe is exactly what it wants to be. If you go there and don't understand anything, you can be sure there is nothing you miss - it's simply nothing that you need to know, since it is only useful to programmers. :lol: :lol …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-13, 21:18

TeaRex, that's easy to say ("it's SOURCE forge), but the fact is that on 99% of the open-source projects, one is -directed- to the sourceforge page; as THE place to get a program, and find out about it. So it really isn't germane what the domain-name is. That's where people are sent to. Call it …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-13, 19:41

hi wd, I believe that the pcad exe's are loading the drivers themselves. I didn't find anything about HOW to load/run/start a regular DOS within DosBox. Maybe I missed a link somewhere? I don't know anything about "CVS", sorry. I find much of the sourceforge stuff to be simply impenetrable; as if …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-12, 22:25

huh....interesting that it changes the file on disk every time it runs. just making sure, I guess....grin... I looked through psave in an editor and saw the list of error msgs. psave is running without displaying any error msgs; so I'm assuming that it's finding the pcaddrv.sys and ibmpc.drv files …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-12, 18:29

whups....just re-read your post wd. you say it -opens- sibmpc.drv ? On disk ?? i had at first assumed you meant it was modifying it -in ram- after it was loaded. I wish I understood it better. All I know is that there's still something in DosBox emulation that isn't 100%. This psave thing works …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-12, 18:23

hi wd, SIBMPC is pcad's "driver" for the PC hdw, i.e. mobo...it's very generic...works on any mobo I've ever run or heard of anyone running. Presumably pcad does its serial-i/o via this driver? I wonder why DosBox isn't letting psave make its usual mods to sibmpc.drv ?? Or if it is, why the heck …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-11, 18:51

howdy hal9000, and thanks for taking a look at it. that's a little text file which holds the locations of the drivers that PCAD uses. That file IS present in the root of C, which I'm mounting as "C" in DosBox. PCAD is apparently finding it OK, because it gives an error if it doesn't, plus PCAD -is- …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-11, 17:58

PS: Here is the PSAVE.COM for examination, attached to this post whups, the board wouldn't let me attach a .COM, so I changed the extension to .bak. Just change it back to .COM whups2, the board doesn't like .bak either... 🙄 ok, i'll try it with .txt extension...

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-11, 17:41

hey wd, thanks for the thought. That never even occurred to me! I didn't realize one could do that....I thought DosBox was already a "loaded DOS". I will dig up msdos6.22 and try running that in dosbox. I'm still curious what DosBox is doing differently than a real native DOS, which is causing it to …

Re: Dongles?? PCAD, PSAVE

Posted on 2006-02-11, 17:16

hello eL Pusher, Yes, I thought it should work. Especially with the TSR running to intercept the dongle-calls (presumably). Last night I tried -disabling- the serial-port emulation in DosBox; thinking that perhaps that would keep Dosbox from 'blocking' PSAVE; but no change. Still acts like PSAVE …

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