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Re: Underclocking a Pentium 2 350MHz?

Posted on 2017-01-12, 00:06

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Strange, L2 cache usually does not make much difference in games. Disabling L1, on the other hand, makes the CPU go to a crawl. PS. You can use SetMul to disable/enable the L2 without going to the BIOS. I disabled the "External Cache" in the BIOS. I left the "Internal Cache" enabled. I assume that …

Re: Underclocking a Pentium 2 350MHz?

Posted on 2017-01-11, 23:41

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Throttle is already the best one. And yes, it still ain't smooth with some games. (achievement: vogons skill level 'adept') If you want to go to the next real level of slowness, you need a Pentium II produced before week 34 1998 and lower the multiplier with the DIP switch bank of your Transcend TS …

Re: Underclocking a Pentium 2 350MHz?

Posted on 2017-01-11, 23:29

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Been testing it out for a while now. Not as slow as I had hoped, but getting there. Can anyone suggest a good CPU slowdown utility in order to get a smooth result? The best one I've tried so far is Throttle, but it's far from perfect.

Re: Underclocking a Pentium 2 350MHz?

Posted on 2017-01-11, 20:07

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Weren't all PII-350s multiplier locked? Some 333s and some 400s were also unlocked though, mostly downwards. I don't know if there's any Klamaths that are locked, but the less speedy Deschutes have a better chance of at least being unlocked downward. Not really sure about the multiplier lock. I've …

Re: Underclocking a Pentium 2 350MHz?

Posted on 2017-01-11, 20:05

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Are you talking about the GA-6BXC in your signature? It has hardware jumpers and therefor supports every possible multiplier that a Pentium 2/3 can understand. (I have two of these boards myself.) Nope, that's one of my many earlier builds. :lol: The only 2 boards I have available right now are an …

Re: Underclocking a Pentium 2 350MHz?

Posted on 2017-01-11, 19:26

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

And if you have an LX board, there are some that could do 50MHz FSB (dunno about BX's which can lower their FSB below 66MHz from top of my head) which along with x2 CPU multiplier will give you 100MHz. It's a BX and the multiplier doesn't go below 3.5x. So even a 233MHz Klamath can't run below …

Re: Underclocking a Pentium 2 350MHz?

Posted on 2017-01-11, 19:22

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

PhilsComputerLab wrote: Klamath 233, I had running at 66 x 2. So yes, worth getting. So it's fine to run the 350MHz Deschutes at 66x3.5 then? Just wanted to be sure. Should definitely also try to get my hands on a 233 or 266 Klamath then. 😀

Underclocking a Pentium 2 350MHz?

Posted on 2017-01-11, 19:09

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Hi Everyone. I'm wanting to build a slower system, but the slowest CPU I have available is a Deschutes 350MHz. Ideally I would have liked to have a had a Klamath 233MHz since the goal is to get performance roughly in line with a Pentium Pro or thereabout. I'm able to achieve 233MHz by lowering the …

Re: Ideal Machine for a severely cut back 6800XT AGP

Posted on 2017-01-10, 20:15

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

Not sure about the fundamentals, but it looks like I wasn't the only one who wasn't able to test SM3.0 with 3DMark 06 on my 6200. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/146398 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/17596871 I had no issues running those tests on the same machine with the 6800XT.

Re: Ideal Machine for a severely cut back 6800XT AGP

Posted on 2017-01-10, 18:32

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

agent_x007 wrote: Can you make a GPU-z window screenshot of GF 6200 ? AIDA64 GPU section also could help. Hope this tells you what you wanted to know. 😀

Re: Ideal Machine for a severely cut back 6800XT AGP

Posted on 2017-01-10, 17:18

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

agent_x007 wrote: Can you make a GPU-z window screenshot of GF 6200 ? AIDA64 GPU section also could help. Can do a GPU-Z, but I've already put it back into the P3 1GHz machine that it was in before. Hopefully that won't hamper the reading in any way.

Re: Ideal Machine for a severely cut back 6800XT AGP

Posted on 2017-01-10, 13:16

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

how is SM3 unsupported on the 6200? the card is supposed to support it also, can you confirm the 6800XT runs at 300/533? and what about the 6200 clocks? I have no idea why, but it was disabled in 3DMark for the 6200. I was running the same driver version for both cards. (178.24) Yes, the 6800XT ran …

Re: Ideal Machine for a severely cut back 6800XT AGP

Posted on 2017-01-10, 00:35

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

The only benchmarking tool I have available to me right now, is a copy of 3D Mark 2006 from back when I had just bought a shiny new 6600GT. :) Just to let you now : ALL 3DMark programs up to 3DMark 06, can be downloaded from futuremark's legacy site with Advance keys posted there for free : LINK …

Re: Ideal Machine for a severely cut back 6800XT AGP

Posted on 2017-01-09, 22:49

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

The only benchmarking tool I have available to me right now, is a copy of 3D Mark 2006 from back when I had just bought a shiny new 6600GT. :) I'm going to start by testing the 512MB/64bit XFX 6200 AGP and then fire up the 128MB/64bit Biostar 6800XT AGP, which I would imagine would be at least …

Re: Ideal Machine for a severely cut back 6800XT AGP

Posted on 2017-01-09, 20:48

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

You're right. I am kinda eager to see how it will actually perform :) I'd say, go for it! And do some benchmarks :D I'd love too. I'm not big on benchmarking, are there any tools you would recommend? I'll post the results here. :happy: I can see it performing bellow a 6200 128bit (a 500MHz model) …

Re: Ideal Machine for a severely cut back 6800XT AGP

Posted on 2017-01-09, 17:31

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

At this point it's just a case of making use of it in its current form rather than just shelving it. I plan on using it for very old games anyway (Prior to Doom3). So I guess it should be fine in a 3.2GHz P4 then? @candle_86 - I'm pretty sure it would still outperform a 6200 by a decent margin ( …

Re: Ideal Machine for a severely cut back 6800XT AGP

Posted on 2017-01-09, 15:35

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

Usually weird is a good thing..but maybe not in this case lol 64-bit memory bus was pretty poor in those days already. Well, given that I spent the equivalent of $6 US on it, I couldn't have gone too far wrong. :happy: So back to my original question, do you think this card would be adequate for a …

Re: Ideal Machine for a severely cut back 6800XT AGP

Posted on 2017-01-09, 12:40

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

What an odd graphics card. Why would they create something like that? :confused: There's nothing really odd about it, it's pretty much the same as an Asus 6800LE. You can try Your hand at unlocking pipes with Rivatuner and maybe get a full 6800 out of it. Realistically these should have been …

Re: Ideal Machine for a severely cut back 6800XT AGP

Posted on 2017-01-09, 01:38

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

I know, right? 🤣 That was part of the reason I was drawn to it. I think it was a sort of end-of-life card, and they had a surplus of 6800XT GPUs lying around. Performance wise, I would guess it could probably take on a 7300GT. 😒

Ideal Machine for a severely cut back 6800XT AGP

Posted on 2017-01-08, 23:45

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

Hi Everyone As the title indicates, I have a 6800XT AGP which has been "collecting dust" in my cupboard for some time now. I got it for a really good price with some other cards, but can't decide what type of machine to fit it in. It's a Biostar 128MB/64-Bit DDR2 version. This one to be more …

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