Re: Best video card with Dos / Win 3.11 / Win 98 support

Posted on 2012-03-13, 07:53

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by kool kitty89

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Looks like you already found a solution, but I figured I'd add what I know about 2 of the other cards mentioned in this thread. The Radeon 7000 PCI does not have Windows 3.1 drivers. I managed to get it to work with higher resolutions and color depths using a generic SVGA driver, but like I said …

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Re: Cyrix appreciation thread

Posted on 2012-03-13, 07:16

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by kool kitty89

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The closest I can find from the Cyrix literature is: 6x86MX - PR233GP 3x66 6x86MX - PR266GP 3x75 6x86MX - PR266GP 3.5x66 MII - PR266 2.5x83 However, there seem to be plenty differant collectors who have an MII-266GP 3x66 http://www.chipdb.org/cat-266-173.htm Cyrix has, at times, changed their own …

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Re: Cyrix appreciation thread

Posted on 2012-03-12, 21:19

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by kool kitty89

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I got a motherboard with the Cyrix (different from the Pentium), I don't remember what model it was though (probably a 430TX). I was 13 or 14 years old at the time, I got the motherboard + Cyrix CPU for $50 if I remember correctly. My school friend sold it to me, all second hand, it wasn't until a …

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Re: 3D Accelerators Compared

Posted on 2012-03-10, 07:40

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by kool kitty89

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Yeah, everything's white, it looks weird huh? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvIWMwuUDzE (You may hear my nose whistling for pretty much the whole video, I have a bit of a stuffy nose at the moment, so sorry about that. I used the Youtube audio swap thing, but as of now that's still processing, so …

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Re: Cyrix appreciation thread

Posted on 2012-03-10, 07:18

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by kool kitty89

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If I remember correctly the games of choice were Starcraft 1 and Quake 3, and I did get a different motherboard with the Cyrix. The Pentium 133 was on an older VX style motherboard, I don't remember what the Cyrix came on. I agree it was a touch faster in Windows than the Pentium 133, but not …

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Re: 3D Accelerator Video Captures

Posted on 2012-03-09, 22:31

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by kool kitty89

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I was looking around at some other old reviews, and noticed some more positive/balanced reviews on the early Rage cards. One consistent thing mentioned seems to be that the value was best for those who actually needed the multimedia performance features (namely MPEG) or added RAM (on certain models …

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Re: 3D Accelerator Video Captures

Posted on 2012-03-09, 09:00

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by kool kitty89

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Speaking of Tomb Raider 2: S3 Virge 325 (Tomb Raider 2) The speed is decent (looks about as fast as Tomb Raider I), but the odd black artifacts are definitely annoying. And an interesting note on the early Tomb Raider games in general: they all use black shaded fade-out to hide pop-in, so cards …

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Re: 3D Accelerators Compared

Posted on 2012-03-09, 08:04

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by kool kitty89

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I had originally typed "preferred" instead of "sufficient", but altered the wording to hopefully increase unbiased feedback response. Thank you for your input. A clearer way of wording my question might be: For the general trend of increasing game performance (fps) with increasing CPU frequency/ …

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Re: 3D Accelerator Video Captures

Posted on 2012-03-09, 00:50

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by kool kitty89

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well the Rage CAN'T alpha blend - the driver makes the CPU do that as fast as it can :) it can't modulate alpha either (not even by color) so stuff that fades will not, turok looks especially dreadful in it. Quake3 had to have an alternate pre-faded white smoke for the Rage Pro Really? . . . that's …

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Re: 3D Accelerator Video Captures

Posted on 2012-03-09, 00:22

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by kool kitty89

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D3D is not very usable with Virge 325. Some D3Dv3 games might be ok, but usually it is very slow and buggy. Maybe if you take the resolution way down to 320x240 or so, if possible... At 320x240, you'd still be as good (resolution wise) as most console games of the time at least and with visual …

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Re: 3D Accelerator Video Captures

Posted on 2012-03-09, 00:16

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by kool kitty89

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D3D is not very usable with Virge 325. Some D3Dv3 games might be ok, but usually it is very slow and buggy. Maybe if you take the resolution way down to 320x240 or so, if possible... At 320x240, you'd still be as good (resolution wise) as most console games of the time at least and with visual …

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Re: 3D Accelerator Video Captures

Posted on 2012-03-08, 22:34

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by kool kitty89

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Excellent videos! We need more old graphics hardware captured on video! How about some of the early (or late) ATi Rage cards? I have a ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra card. That's the second generation Rage 128 chip. I have a Rage Pro PCI card I could test at some point, and Rage II PCI cards are very …

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Re: Cyrix MII-433GP Build

Posted on 2012-03-08, 08:48

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by kool kitty89

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OK, that makes sense. I'll definitely keep an eye out for a VA-502. For that matter, I'll keep a look out for the Iwill P55XPlus, which is what IBM used to benchmark the 3x83 MHz PR333. (and is also supposedly one of the few boards that are solidly reliable at 83 MHz) One more note, and not so much …

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Re: Cyrix MII-433GP Build

Posted on 2012-03-07, 09:11

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by kool kitty89

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A note for the Ultimate 686 Benchmark Comparison: If possible, it would be good to include an FIC VA-502 board in the comparison, especially for testing the 6x86MX PR200 chips. Given Red Hill's CPU and motherboard museums on this: http://redhill.net.au/b/b-98.html If you ran a 6x86MX-200, the VA-502 …

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Re: Cyrix appreciation thread

Posted on 2012-03-07, 08:51

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I had a Cyrix PR200 back in the day. My school friend sold it to me. He said it was a Pentium 200 and it was meant to upgrade my Pentium 133. The Cyrix PR200 was slower at 3D games than my Pentium 133, I was pissed :p I ended up over-clocking the Pentium 133 to 166 and moved the Cyrix into another …

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Re: 3D Accelerator Video Captures

Posted on 2012-03-07, 08:09

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by kool kitty89

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What model ViRGE chipset was used for that? The S3 games look quite good, at least compared to the poor reputation that card has. (a bit framey, but with full effects/filtering/perspective correction on and what looks like 640x480 res . . . so a playable framerate with visual quality miles better …

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Re: Cyrix appreciation thread

Posted on 2012-03-02, 00:26

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Compared to the figures in the 133 MHz challenge thread, the 75 and 100 MHz L2 cache performance compares rather favorably with the 66 MHz cache shown there. The best case results for those 66 MHz examples was the K6-III+ and Pentium MMX (at ~176 and ~173 MB/s) compared with your ~203 MB/s at 75 MHz …

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Re: Cyrix appreciation thread

Posted on 2012-03-01, 05:09

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by kool kitty89

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It really is odd that the improvement is so modest at 100 MHz. Have you tried those MVP3 boards at 75 MHz for comparison? (if they compare favorably with the Intel board, then that would imply the problem lies at 100 MHz in general) It looks right to me. I recall reading reviews concluding that a …

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Re: Cyrix appreciation thread

Posted on 2012-02-29, 19:53

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by kool kitty89

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It really is odd that the improvement is so modest at 100 MHz. Have you tried those MVP3 boards at 75 MHz for comparison? (if they compare favorably with the Intel board, then that would imply the problem lies at 100 MHz in general) Those benchmarks don't compare very favorably at all even with …

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Re: Cyrix Appreciation Thread

Posted on 2012-02-27, 22:46

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As for the GA-5SMM, it does seem many have OC'd it beyond 100 MHz. I can't tell what the speed of the TAG RAM is on the board, I can only see the ELITE cache, which may be 5 ns, but it is often the TAG RAM that is the limiting factor in overclockability. You'd probably want a TAG RAM with at 6 ns …

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