Re: Which CPU: DOS vs. Windows 98 machine?

Posted on 2016-04-01, 20:25

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Maybe you can fold your data and Phil's together. Cache tweaking seems like a logical extension, and this will keep those results in perspective. I've thought about that, but I don't know how to do that without creating a ton of work, and I'm trying to keep this simple and easy for people to …

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Re: Which CPU: DOS vs. Windows 98 machine?

Posted on 2016-04-01, 19:23

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So maybe I could take the average 386/40 from Phil's chart and place that into this chart so someone knows what a typical 386/40 scores in specific benchmarks. I'd sorted results by some param. Then made a search to find a last "heap" of close results for that CPU. By this way you may find best …

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Samsung Galaxy LTD retro phone

Posted on 2016-04-01, 19:01

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http://www.samsung.com/uk/galaxy-ltd/ Be sure to click "Learn More" 😀

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Re: Which CPU: DOS vs. Windows 98 machine?

Posted on 2016-04-01, 17:39

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Thanks, Chris! When I nail down a format, I will start a new thread with my scores pre-populated, then solicit help from you and anyone else interested so we can grow the list. 😀

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Re: Which CPU: DOS vs. Windows 98 machine?

Posted on 2016-04-01, 17:19

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I would have thought Phil's VGA Benchmark covers all this ground TBH https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lvF9nOAMKLeCpHR_SaA48M7sUXItwIi72gHRcw0wpNU/edit#gid=0 , it has over 650 entries now so you can easily find a configuration for your needs. From experience, a Realtek ISA VGA card will make …

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2016-04-01, 16:24

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Just won an auction for a Pentium Overdrive 200MMX for $18.16 shipped. Considering how rare these are on ebay (the only "Buy Now" one I could find up to now was $49), I'm happy. Grats that was a nice deal! :) Thanks. I forgot I had a $12.88 credit for the DOA graphics card I just got, so my out of …

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2016-04-01, 16:06

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Just won an auction for a Pentium Overdrive 200MMX for $18.16 shipped. Considering how rare these are on ebay (the only "Buy Now" one I could find up to now was $49), I'm happy.

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Re: Which CPU: DOS vs. Windows 98 machine?

Posted on 2016-04-01, 16:01

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I've done charts like this many years ago :D The motherboard, memory timings and graphics card also matters a little. CPU architecture matters the most though. Using an ISA card is a trick to make it even slower. What a nice graph will show are the "gaps", areas that you cannot reach with the cache …

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Re: Which CPU: DOS vs. Windows 98 machine?

Posted on 2016-04-01, 15:29

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This is one of the reasons I am working on compiling numbers for as many CPUs as possible with L1 cache disabled: http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=47412 Wouldn't it be nice to look at one chart and see that, for example, a Pentium 120 perform like a 20Mhz 386? SETMUL is really simple. Just …

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Re: Is there a benchmark list showing results with L1 disabled?

Posted on 2016-04-01, 14:22

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I've been thinking about what my goal is--accurately documenting CPU performance with L1 cache disabled, and depending on the CPU, L2 cache as well. Some things I'm considering changing: -Remove all results with L1 cache ENabled. There's enough benchmark lists with numbers like these already. - …

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Re: Is there a benchmark list showing results with L1 disabled?

Posted on 2016-04-01, 13:48

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Going through the PII at various multipliers and Celeron 333 now. When I publish them you are welcome to pull them out of my results to add to yours. Besides speedtst in real DOS, my table contatins 4 numbers gotten on DOSBox. In case you have fun for more testing, would be interesting to compare …

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Re: Is there a benchmark list showing results with L1 disabled?

Posted on 2016-04-01, 02:25

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So here are the results with only the K6-2 remaining. L1D_bench.jpg Surprises so far: -Sysinfo is surprisingly accurate and consistent when compared with Doom results. The only outlier is the wildly underclocked "Pentium II 133" which Norton thinks is much slower than it really is. Speedsys also …

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Re: Celeron, the good bad and ugly.

Posted on 2016-04-01, 02:09

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Well done, stamasd! It's a good feeling, isn't it? I had the same combo at the time (BH6 and Celeron 300a @450). It was awesome. Enjoy 😀

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Re: How do you Rate Ebay Sellers when...

Posted on 2016-04-01, 01:33

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This particular seller has a feedback score of over 20000 and 100% positive feedback. They got my positive feedback only because I got a refund no questions asked within an hour of sending them a message. Still, I'm disappointed I don't have the video card I was looking forward to testing. The …

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Re: How do you Rate Ebay Sellers when...

Posted on 2016-03-31, 23:00

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I also give positive feedback, but I was curious how common it was for others to do the same. It just gets me and sometimes makes it hard to want to give a positive feedback when there was an obvious lack of attention during packing. They say the product is functional, but it arrives with missing …

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How do you Rate Ebay Sellers when...

Posted on 2016-03-31, 21:57

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The product you get is DOA, with obvious physical damage (missing SMT components), was advertised as a "Used" and "Working Unit", and when you contact the seller about the problem they quickly refund you and let you keep the product. Does the fact that they refund and don't ask for the part back …

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Re: 7-zip benchmarks for over 60 CPUs

Posted on 2016-03-31, 21:44

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Thanks, rodarkone! Different version (I use 9.20) so I'll have to see if the results are comparable, but if so I will add it. 😀

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Re: 7-zip benchmarks for over 60 CPUs

Posted on 2016-03-31, 21:05

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You can look up the CPU cache size based on CPU description. 7-Zip version is 9.20. I do not track 32/64 bit, just whatever the system is when it goes through my hands. Assume older machines are 32-bit and newer ones 64-bit. Some of the systems are mine, most are machines I configure quickly before …

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7-zip benchmarks for over 60 CPUs

Posted on 2016-03-31, 14:43

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Every system I touch I try to get 7-zip benchmark results for. It gets installed on every system and is pretty quick to run. So here is my collection to share with you. There are some anomalies that you might notice. I probably will know why, so just ask. Edit: Here is an online Google Sheet. It is …

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Re: PCI Video card works in one PC, not in another

Posted on 2016-03-31, 14:22

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I recently purchased a brand new PCI TNT2m64 from Aliexpress, works perfectly in my Epox Ep58 mvp3 motherboard, but nothing at all in my 486. Then I got a cheap one from an ebay seller here, and that worked in my 486 perfectly. It can be a "Luck of the Draw" type of thing. Any idea on the brand, …

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