Re: Will you ever build a Win7 retro PC?

Posted on 2016-02-08, 08:11

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I don't really play modern games so XP is good enough which also happens to be my favourite Windows and I do intend to build an "ultimate" XP PC with the latest hardware that's supported few years down the track once the hardware becomes cheaper... Best XP PC ? It's probably my current PC :) Based …

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Re: 8GB of DDR1 in a socket 939 system

Posted on 2016-02-08, 07:09

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Just WOW,4k and still more or less playable :exclamation: Btw i maybe missed this note but,which hsf you use to keep this hotty cooled such well even overclocked? I'm using Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme (w/939 bolt kit) with Delta FFB1212EHE fan (and MX-2 paste in between) :) This Delta fan can …

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Re: 8GB of DDR1 in a socket 939 system

Posted on 2016-02-07, 15:17

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FX-60 @ 3,05GHz (with 8GB RAM) vs. Crysis : LINK

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Re: Will you ever build a Win7 retro PC?

Posted on 2016-02-02, 09:49

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Honestly, I don't even see the point of building anything newer than Pentium III. I'm not judging at all, and I understand that nostalgia might be the driving force here... But what exactly can you run on a Pentium IV machine that you can't run on a modern box? Well, since Software side of things …

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Re: My 3DMark01 Mega Thread

Posted on 2016-01-31, 12:07

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@up OK. But did U do it on non-VM Win 98 SE (like me) ?

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Re: Will you ever build a Win7 retro PC?

Posted on 2016-01-31, 00:13

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Hmm... I guess Pentium III's and Athlon XP's could be moved to : "Dam old" category ;) Since "Retro" is really cramped with Socket 939 going down the pipe. So result would be : ... Classic PC's (Core 2 Duo/AM2 and newer), Retro PC's (All Pentium 4's and D's with Socket 478/LGA 775 or AMD's with …

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Re: My 3DMark01 Mega Thread

Posted on 2016-01-31, 00:01

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Kamerat wrote: A little 7800 GTX PCIe run on Windows 98 SE, this time with a Core 2 Duo E6600. 3m01_43525_9x400_G70-490-1375.png What driver U used ? My score with 6800 Ultra and X6800 (OC'ed to 3,33GHz) is 21155pkt : LINK (video - result @33:23). 3DMark06 - FX-60 @ 3,04GHz with GTX 780 Ti : LINK 😀 …

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Re: Will you ever build a Win7 retro PC?

Posted on 2016-01-30, 18:28

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I already have a Win7 retro PC: Intel Core Quad Q6700 ASUS P5K Radeon HD4870X2 8GB DDR2-667 (Chinese parts rated at 800MHz are not good enough to pool it off) 128GB Corsair Force LS SSD 1TB HDD etc. It's too old for most new games, but has high-end components. That's basically the definition of …

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Re: Will you ever build a Win7 retro PC?

Posted on 2016-01-30, 17:32

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My age scale for PC's (for Year 2016) : Cutting Edge - Anything with AVX support (Skylake is Bleeding Edge :happy:) Modern PC's (Nehalem/Phenom and newer without AVX), Classic PC's (Core 2 Duo/AM2 and newer), Retro PC's (All Pentium 4's and D's with Socket 939/754 + Socket 370/Socket A), Vintage …

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Re: Which one is more important for AA and AF performance?

Posted on 2016-01-25, 12:08

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I just wonder: supposed GPU A has high pixel fill rate but low bandwidth, while GPU B is the exact opposite. All else being equal, which one has better SSAA performance? Bandwidth is King in GPU's (at least in those without HBM memory ;)). U can live with low Pixel Fillrate numbers (no high …

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Re: Which one is more important for AA and AF performance?

Posted on 2016-01-25, 08:49

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To me it's not so much the jaggies or pixels, it's the crawling you see when things move. SSAA just gives you this photo-realistic, and consistent throughout the scene, look. I've made a video on this actually: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVqYpSqbrIw It's not perfect, but you get the idea. To …

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Re: Win 9x/ME and ram

Posted on 2016-01-24, 12:24

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Nope. Everything worked fine. I recommend changing the setting I mentioned with 512MB RAM installed, and adding the other 1GB after it's done (in my case it wasn't needed, but I didn't exacly have a "typical Win 98 SE" PC 😀) PS. Helpful link : LINK

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Re: Which one is more important for AA and AF performance?

Posted on 2016-01-24, 12:18

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Ah, so in the case of AA, it's pixel (instead of texel) fill rate and memory bandwidth that are most important, aren't they? While texel fill rate is more important for things like AF. In case of fill rate numbers between generations, to what extent do they matter (or doesn't matter)? I mean, …

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Re: Win 9x/ME and ram

Posted on 2016-01-24, 11:58

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Yes it does : LINK (1,15GB in my case). BUT, it requires changing few settings in config.sys and system.ini files. Video : LINK (starts @13:50). Instalation itself, may not like over 512MB of RAM tho.

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Re: 8GB of DDR1 in a socket 939 system

Posted on 2016-01-24, 11:49

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A 780 Ti in that system? holy cpu bottleneck batman... :exclamation: :lol: :depressed: :blah: CPU Bottlenecking is overrated :happy: : LINK ^I've got "10 degrees C of bottleneck", because GPU should be at 83C at max load. With GTX 780 Ti I can do 4k through DSR and GPU utilisation will go up :cool: …

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Re: Which one is more important for AA and AF performance?

Posted on 2016-01-23, 23:40

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Pixel Fillrate (ROP unit thing) is helpful only IF U have memory bandwidth to back it up, it's nessessary for high resolutions. SSAA will take advantage of higher Pixel Fillrate. Texel Fillrate (TMU unit thing), will enable GPU to "paint" 3D objects faster, or in case of AF, do it more accuratly …

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Re: 8GB of DDR1 in a socket 939 system

Posted on 2016-01-23, 23:25

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First thing : I would like to thank U all users in this topic (learned few things). I was able to get a Samsung ECC Reg memory (ZCCC chips used). Result : http://i.imgur.com/gyGjkq2.png GPU benchamarks : 3DMark Vantage http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/5401639 3DMark Fire Strike Ultra http://www.3dmark.com …

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Re: Native AGP 8X card

Posted on 2016-01-20, 18:29

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I also have a 6800GS AGP but sadly no official driver support for Win98. There is a hack but I've heard it is not worth it. Strangely, I believe the 6800 Ultra is supported in Win98. Not sure why the 6800GS is not. That might be a clue, but again, I simply don't know for sure. Could also be that …

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Re: Geforce2 shading rasterizer info

Posted on 2016-01-19, 13:19

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I disagree with that somewhat. Namely, the hardware T&L on the GeForce performs only vertex processing. Back then, lighting was only calculated per-vertex, and interpolated across the triangle surface. Likewise, texture coordinates were interpolated between vertices. What makes things like EMBM and …

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Re: Geforce2 shading rasterizer info

Posted on 2016-01-19, 12:11

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NSR (like ATI's Pixel Tapestry), to me is just an extension of hardware T&L unit (first used in GeForce 256). It enables certain operations to be run on hardware (and per pixel). Examples : Shadow maps, bump mapping (EMBM, Dot Product 3, and embossed), shadow volumes, volumetric explosion, elevation …

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