Re: Doom 3 timedemo shootout with period correct hardware.

Posted on 2019-03-17, 18:01

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by lost77

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Both of my 6800 Ultra AGP cards have a 425Mhz core clock, so didn't think much of it. I tried to push for a higher HTT but my RAM tops out at about 215Mhz at 2-2-2-5. Maybe at higher voltage but the MSI board tops out at 2.85v. Dropping timings to something like 2.5-3-3-7 would drop the score quite …

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Re: TNT vs TNT2 M64

Posted on 2019-03-16, 16:22

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by lost77

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Thanks for the benchmarks. I replaced a TNT for a TNT2 M64 32MB back in 1999. This was mostly to get the extra RAM. Seeing these benchmarks the upgrade only made sense at settings that I would consider unplayable.Maybe less micro-stuttering in some games with 32MB. Good thing I got it for free.

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Re: Doom 3 timedemo shootout with period correct hardware.

Posted on 2019-03-14, 18:44

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by lost77

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Decided to join in on the fun since I was testing out a socket 939 motherboard anyway. Feels good sticking with AGP, this is more like I remember it (originally played it with a Radeon 9800 Pro). These are period correct entries. Might try out a newer PCI-E build at a later date. System specs: MSI …

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Re: Vintage computing / electronics databook - can anyone date this from the pics?

Posted on 2019-02-25, 17:53

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by lost77

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The EXORdisk II mentioned is from 1976 I Believe. F8 formulator mark III and COSMAC Development system II is 1977 I think. Can't see anything newer than that.

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Re: Do you think this PC will be a Slot A or Socket A?

Posted on 2019-02-18, 16:14

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by lost77

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I agree, it's a Socket A. MS Works 2001 is from late 2000. There is a mention of May at the top. So May 2001 at which point Socket A had been around for most of a year.

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Re: Need help to ID Geforce 2 GTS

Posted on 2019-02-16, 15:24

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by lost77

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I don't think these card were produced for Creative as such, MSI just had a bunch of cards manufactured and then sold them in retail or OEM or to other vendors that rebranded them. For the consumer it sucks of they buy a brand they like only to find out it is just a sticker 🙁

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Re: Need help to ID Geforce 2 GTS

Posted on 2019-02-16, 14:29

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by lost77

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Singapore and copyright on PCB, looks like a Creative card.

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Re: Need help to ID Geforce 2 GTS

Posted on 2019-02-16, 14:23

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by lost77

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Creative cards I have seen from that time were produced in Singapore, MSI cards in Taiwan. The ID identifies it as a MS-8820 (MSI Geforce 2 GTS 64MB) although it seems to only have 32MB (MS-8815). My bet would be on it being an MSI card. Peeling off the stickers on the front of the card might seal …

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Re: Source for Video Card Fan / Heatsink Fasteners

Posted on 2019-02-15, 15:52

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by lost77

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I have bought some from AliExpress that worked fine for some 1999-2002 cards. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-17-6mm-13-8mm-plastic-nail-Southbridge-Northbridge-cooling-fan-plastic-spring-clips-secure-the/32820180055.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000014.1.2c8e7984Kqx8cO&gps-id= …

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Re: Athlon vs Duron

Posted on 2019-02-12, 20:19

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by lost77

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Descent3 mentions Pentium III "enhancements" in the patch notes but i'm not sure what that entails. Other Interplay games like Messiah were also supposed to support SSE but i'm not sure they did. I guess video drivers did support SSE but didn't seem to gain much benefit from it.

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Re: Athlon vs Duron

Posted on 2019-02-10, 21:55

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by lost77

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The Morgan Durons have less cache than the palomino but still defaults to 1.75 volts so they do run decently hot. You can probably undervolt it a bit, my 1000Mhz Morgan runs fine on 1.65 volts. And as dionb wrote, a 1300Mhz Duron will beat a 1000Mhz Athlon B almost all of the time You will also get …

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Re: 10 year cpu challenge

Posted on 2019-01-19, 21:28

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by lost77

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EDIT: Added in the two previous decades 1989: IBM PS/2 Model 30 with a 8088 4.77Mhz. This was not a normal configuration, my family actually bought (and paid) for a 80286 with 1MB of ram but got scammed. It did include the 20MB hard drive though. https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxNjAw/z/ …

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Re: Is a 16x CD-ROM considered too loud for game play?

Posted on 2019-01-16, 22:24

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by lost77

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Some cd-rom drives used a beam splitter to read faster than the spinning speed. ... Pretty sure it was only those notoriously unreliable Kenwood TrueX "72x" drives that used that technique... Maybe it was just down to improved vibration damping then. I can at least remember a few 40-48x lite-on CD- …

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Re: Is a 16x CD-ROM considered too loud for game play?

Posted on 2019-01-16, 21:42

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by lost77

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Some cd-rom drives used a beam splitter to read faster than the spinning speed. Some of the 40-52x speed i've had through the years were decently quiet. For older drives I do prefer 8x speed or so.

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Re: Asus Drivers ( Geforce 2 GTS "v7700" )

Posted on 2019-01-14, 13:02

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by lost77

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Never heard of a Geforce 2 that needed special drivers. What version are you installing? I think ForceWare 71 was the last to support the Geforce 2.

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Re: Now here's something that sounds off.

Posted on 2019-01-08, 22:39

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by lost77

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No, but it looks like the exact same PCB. You might not want to try to remove the glued on heatsink on a card you are trying to sell. Seems the RAM are the same found on many Voodoo 3 2000s. Ofc at 120$ I wouldn't buy it no matter what.

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Re: Project: First Person Shooter History

Posted on 2019-01-08, 22:21

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by lost77

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Duke Nukem 3D came out before Quake, might want to fix that. I would add Rise of the Triad (1994), play that after Doom. It tried to do a few things different. Another one you could consider is Jedi Knight (September 1997), it played a bit different than your typical doom/quake game. Maybe put Halo: …

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Re: Now here's something that sounds off.

Posted on 2019-01-08, 21:47

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by lost77

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That does look like a Voodoo 3 chip to me. The Geforce markings on the chip are rotated, seems weird. It also makes sense to try to sell it as a Geforce 2 MX since it was a much faster card. And if they actually made such a card, it would be on a universal agp pcb, since those were the norm in 2001 …

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Re: GLQuake dynamic lighting performance request

Posted on 2019-01-08, 21:23

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by lost77

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I decides to do some more tests for you. First up is a Pentium 3-S 1.4 GHz. First number is gl_flashblend, second is r_dynamic Voodoo 2 SLI 1024x768: (1/1) - (0/1) - (0/0) 58.1 - 71.1 - 78.7 Ati Rage 128 Pro 1024x768: (1/1) - (0/1) - (0/0) 37.1 - 42.5 - 45.9 The default mode is still the slowest …

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Re: GLQuake dynamic lighting performance request

Posted on 2019-01-07, 22:41

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The oldest system I have working right now it a Athlon 1.4 with a Voodoo 4 4500. 1024x768 gl_flashblend 1: 78.4 fps gl_flashblend 0, r_dynamic 1: 85.7 fps gl_flashblend 0, r_dynamic 0: 95.2 fps

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