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Re: Building a new Socket 7 MMX MS-DOS / Windows 95 All-in-one system

Posted on 2023-03-06, 18:35

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

If that's a deal breaker for you, the tomato or the FIC boards are likely my #2. Both are pretty similar so either works. More info on the tomato here: https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/zida-5dhx-ver.-1.20 Ah, so the tomato has 430hx triton ii, so it has MMX support. Also, it looks like it has …

Re: Willow - Windows 3.0 Real Mode applications on OS/2 1.x and up (and stuff)

Posted on 2023-03-06, 16:05

in Milliways

in Milliways

Does this Infoworld edition in 92 indicate the end of OS/2 was near? https://books.google.com/books?id=aVEEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false They were talking about the Windows support lacking and it was hard for corporate managers to justify buying it anymore. Maybe they fixed it, but if after 92 …

Re: Building a new Socket 7 MMX MS-DOS / Windows 95 All-in-one system

Posted on 2023-03-06, 15:54

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

I'd start with the Shuttle Spacewalker 591P Ver 3.1 and get that going first. The others I'd test and see what I can do with them and how they run. But just on what you presented, I think that is what I'd run an MMX on. Just realised this one has a AGP slot also! I need to check if It has a ps/2 …

Re: Building a new Socket 7 MMX MS-DOS / Windows 95 All-in-one system

Posted on 2023-03-05, 22:41

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

I'd start with the Shuttle Spacewalker 591P Ver 3.1 and get that going first. The others I'd test and see what I can do with them and how they run. But just on what you presented, I think that is what I'd run an MMX on.

Re: Willow - Windows 3.0 Real Mode applications on OS/2 1.x and up (and stuff)

Posted on 2023-03-01, 16:16

in Milliways

in Milliways

Here is an article about ram prices from 1985 - 1988. In summary, they say the producers overestimated demand and produced too much. It went from $300 per MB in 1985 to $133 per MB in 1987 to $500 per MB in 1988. DOH! There is also a bit on trade practices like what's happening today. https://tedium …

Re: Willow - Windows 3.0 Real Mode applications on OS/2 1.x and up (and stuff)

Posted on 2023-03-01, 15:38

in Milliways

in Milliways

Indeed, from what I remember, 1MB simms continued to be pricey into the early 90s. Then you have the issue of software. There wasn't gonna be much native software on something completely new. So you aren't gonna start decking out a system with more memory just for the opportunity to run the same …

Re: Willow - Windows 3.0 Real Mode applications on OS/2 1.x and up (and stuff)

Posted on 2023-02-27, 15:18

in Milliways

in Milliways

I can't tell if the Model 80 could easily be maxed when it was originally released. But it does seem it could at least run OS/2 with 2MB of RAM. And it would have been super expensive. OS/2 would have come some months later, so no one was probably gonna jump on it right away for that purpose. And …

Re: Willow - Windows 3.0 Real Mode applications on OS/2 1.x and up (and stuff)

Posted on 2023-02-27, 02:56

in Milliways

in Milliways

The VM must have at least 12MB RAM assigned, and preferably 16 or more, or NT will crash or hang in various interesting ways. Yes, NT was bloatware, requiring much more RAM than its closest competitor, OS/2. Most importantly, NT will crash if the hard disk isn’t formatted—this is probably a bug in …

Re: Willow - Windows 3.0 Real Mode applications on OS/2 1.x and up (and stuff)

Posted on 2023-02-25, 17:45

in Milliways

in Milliways

I am new to PCem, so I am unsure how capable it would be when it comes to fully emulating the capabilities of OS/2. I wonder how it does on real hardware? By the time presentation manager came about, wouldn't a high end PS/2 have been more appropriate? Given the memory, and likely speed concerns, I …

Re: Willow - Windows 3.0 Real Mode applications on OS/2 1.x and up

Posted on 2023-02-19, 16:00

in Milliways

in Milliways

I forgot to mention.. There's an issue I totally have had overlooked. Early 80386 chips were market "16BIT S/W ONLY". They had issues executing 32-Bit software kind of. At least on their rated speed, underclocking may or may not helped. Indeed, there were some silicon issues. Since there was some …

Re: Willow - Windows 3.0 Real Mode applications on OS/2 1.x and up

Posted on 2023-02-19, 03:42

in Milliways

in Milliways

For me, I didn't see the 286 becoming common place until right around 1989 (being a home user), when the the 486 kicked the 386 off it's mainframe on a chip hill. For many in the late 80s, turbo XTs were the affordable option. So XT class machines until the 486 happened, then the 286 really started …

Re: Can anyone ID this IDE/Floppy Controller?

Posted on 2023-02-19, 00:07

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

No I cannot id. But this is very similar: https://www.elhvb.com/iocard/tdnservices/c190m5105.pdf

Re: Willow - Windows 3.0 Real Mode applications on OS/2 1.x and up

Posted on 2023-02-18, 02:19

in Milliways

in Milliways

Originally MS had Xenix, yes. The plan in the early IBM PC days of Microsoft was to migrate DOS users over to Xenix, when PCs got better. So DOS was starting to take more of a resemblance to UNIX. Windows was kind of born out of the multi-task switchers that started to pop up to give users some …

Re: Willow - Windows 3.0 Real Mode applications on OS/2 1.x and up

Posted on 2023-02-17, 14:13

in Milliways

in Milliways

When MS broke away from the OS/2 project, and created WinNT, did they design and market it for the masses? No... ? And at the time, they kept updating and releasing DOS, which took until 2000 for them to finally decide to kill it. I think OS/2 initially was not going to replace DOS. They were going …

Re: Pentium MMX 233 aiming for the stars!

Posted on 2023-02-15, 17:10

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

Hmmm maybe only worked on PowerColor's own motherboards???? https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/tech-retrospective-ali-aladdin-7-artx-feat-powercolor-p561a-sunset-on-super-socket-7.295755/ some turbo PCI mode??? That motherboard... yuk. The virtual AGP 8X is marketing speak for just …

Re: Original Voodoo 5 6000 prototype for sale on eBay

Posted on 2023-02-08, 15:58

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

And even with the V5-6k, there are people who through incompentence kill theirs... that means shrinking supply, so even if the number of enthousiasts starts dropping at some point, prices probably won't. What really confuses me for the future is that younger generation just can't use computers. …

Re: So, what is the #1 rule to have a stable Windows Millenium Edition PC?

Posted on 2023-02-08, 15:24

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

If we set up a side by side competition and installed a few apps, installed a few games, upgraded a few versions of things, uninstalled a program or 2. I can guarantee 98SE would be fine and ME would crap its pants. When ME was used as a "daily driver" back in the day I could see this, but at this …

Re: So, what is the #1 rule to have a stable Windows Millenium Edition PC?

Posted on 2023-02-06, 21:35

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Yeah, I don't understand what all the fuss is about with ME being unstable. It does have some problems, but they are easily mitigated, as what people say, turn off system restore, run some patches (fewer than 95/98!). Really WinME does represent the best of the of 9x series had to offer. The only …

Re: At last, almost a complete system!

Posted on 2023-02-05, 20:55

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Great work. I hope to hear more on your projects

Re: How often should an old PC get power?

Posted on 2023-02-04, 19:52

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Good quality electrolytics can reform if powered up in a certain way and then used enough. I would think it's not so much about how often, but the process used on which kind of caps. I would say there might not be a simple solution for more complex situations. If there is a good study behind this …

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