Re: Shuttle SN41G2 v1 / FN41 v2.0 - weird CMOS behaviour

Posted on 2023-03-14, 09:14

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by philmac

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I know this is an ancient post, but in the event you still have this board, I'd suspect the caps. I've had 2 of these FN41 boards and an FN45 board fail - the OST capacitors on them tend to fail but without swelling or leaking, leaving no visible signs of an issue.

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Voodoo2: Additional cooling recommendations for an AMD64 system?

Posted on 2020-06-27, 14:37

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by philmac

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I've been building a system recently out of spares that could act as multiple boot (Win98, WinXP and possibly Win7). At the moment the build looks like this: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Asus K8V SE Deluxe (AGP 8X, PCI, SATA, IDE, LAN, 1394, RAID) 2Gb RAM 2 x 160Gb IDE (for Win98) 1 x 500GB SATA (for WinXP) …

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Re: Failed FN45 Socket A ITX board - where to start with diagnosis/repair?

Posted on 2020-06-13, 13:59

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by philmac

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I've had four of the things (I bought three other SN41G2V2s on ebay as a job lot that had been used as college machines). They've all failed for various reasons. I've managed to cobble together a single working example from the parts that are left from the three ebay boxes, so only two of them are …

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Re: Failed FN45 Socket A ITX board - where to start with diagnosis/repair?

Posted on 2020-06-11, 14:22

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by philmac

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My PCI tester card dropped through the post today, so I've tried powering up with it in the slot. The display rapidly cycles through a series of codes too quickly to count, then stops on F6, which is PhoenixBIOS shorthand for "Boot to mini DOS". It never gets any further. Behaviour is always the …

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Re: Windows 98 SE: IDE Compatibility Mode issues

Posted on 2020-06-05, 08:35

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by philmac

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For anyone else reading this post, root cause is the fact that the Shuttle board has both SATA and IDE controllers present, and Win98 doesn't recognize both. A couple of days after re-enabling everything, it started misbehaving again. From another post on this forum: Technical Background: Intel ICH5 …

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Re: Failed FN45 Socket A ITX board - where to start with diagnosis/repair?

Posted on 2020-06-04, 13:50

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by philmac

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Before you recap the board, do yourself a favor and REALLY wash that board. Literally put it in the dishwasher. (take the fan off & battery out first, obviously) Rince the board in 90% ipa and leave it out in the sun for an hour. and try again. Test the board with a PCI video card. Test it without …

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Re: Packard Bell Platinum (Win98/DOS, PII, Voodoo2)

Posted on 2020-05-29, 14:12

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by philmac

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For a second I was thinking "How did you get a 400MHz Pentium 2 running on an LX chipset? O.o" but then I figured out that the MSI board with the LX chipset (and not the BX chipset like yours is) is the MS-6117, which I actually have laying around here. I never got around to use mine as I already …

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Re: Packard Bell Platinum (Win98/DOS, PII, Voodoo2)

Posted on 2020-05-29, 13:04

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by philmac

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For a second I was thinking "How did you get a 400MHz Pentium 2 running on an LX chipset? O.o" but then I figured out that the MSI board with the LX chipset (and not the BX chipset like yours is) is the MS-6117, which I actually have laying around here. I never got around to use mine as I already …

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Re: Failed FN45 Socket A ITX board - where to start with diagnosis/repair?

Posted on 2020-05-28, 20:33

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by philmac

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Thanks for the advice everyone, I've ordered some extra tools (including a PCI POST tester) and will give diagnosis a go. Hopefully it's just the caps, at least swapping them out would be straightforward.

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Re: Shuttle ITX Win98/WinXP Dual Boot

Posted on 2020-05-28, 12:18

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by philmac

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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2020-05-28, 11:52: Considering the era these boards are from I'd bet a recap of the original board is in order. How are the temps ? CPU seems to be pegged at 50C solid, the rest of the temps fluctuate depending on utilisation: Filename temps.png File size 19.15 KiB Views 668 …

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Re: Failed FN45 Socket A ITX board - where to start with diagnosis/repair?

Posted on 2020-05-28, 08:33

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by philmac

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Sadly yes - I'll quote @PCBONEZ from another thread here " OST caps are famous for failing without bloating or leaking ." Thanks, I'll bear that in mind. Any recommendations for replacements (if they're faulty)? Reliability rather than cost is the consideration, so I'm happy to get the best I can …

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Re: Failed FN45 Socket A ITX board - where to start with diagnosis/repair?

Posted on 2020-05-28, 07:59

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by philmac

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Get the EEPROM out of its socket and try to reflash it, then put it back. Check for shorts. Check VRMs for correct voltages. Check for correct voltages (and ripple) on the CPU socket. Check signal lines. Having the board professionally repaired is probably too expensive to be worthwile. Any …

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Re: Failed FN45 Socket A ITX board - where to start with diagnosis/repair?

Posted on 2020-05-28, 06:36

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by philmac

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zyga64 wrote on 2020-05-28, 06:23: Check CR2032 battery. I had similiar symptoms on socket 478 board once, because battery was dead and caused short circutit. Great minds think alike - forgot to add that I'd replaced this 😀

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Failed FN45 Socket A ITX board - where to start with diagnosis/repair?

Posted on 2020-05-28, 05:34

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by philmac

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IMG_3495.JPG I'm after some help with attempting to repair the above board. Normally I'd just replace boards like this, but trying to track down a replacement on eBay was difficult (I only found one viable replacement and I'm now using it). This board isn't a standard ITX so if the replacement …

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Re: Shuttle ITX Win98/WinXP Dual Boot

Posted on 2020-05-28, 04:55

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by philmac

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I friend of mine had one but the PSU died and took the board with it . I hope this one has a long and happy life . This one has chewed through multiple PSUs over the last 15 years, they don't seem to stand up to the heat very well. Luckily they're no longer a proprietary type (a lot of 1U servers …

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Packard Bell Platinum (Win98/DOS, PII, Voodoo2)

Posted on 2020-05-27, 16:33

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by philmac

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This is my parents old PC from 20 years back. It was reduced to clear at the time, and complete with a 17" CRT that weight a ton and had huge speakers moulded into the case (that went bang years ago). They gave it to me when I moved out as by this point the motherboard had failed due to capacitor …

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Re: What retro activity did you get up to today?

Posted on 2020-05-27, 15:58

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by philmac

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Things I did today: found some bad caps on my Pentium2 motherboard :( IMG_3447.JPG IMG_3444.JPG IMG_3443.JPG Box was flickering on/off on boot, I vaguely remember it doing something similar ten years ago. Luckily I have a spare that someone else repaired so swapped them over. Ordered some …

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Re: Shuttle ITX Win98/WinXP Dual Boot

Posted on 2020-05-27, 15:16

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by philmac

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Managed to get Win98 SE working (although with some IDE compatibility issues on initial boot). Even with the correct nForce drivers installed, it refused to play ball until I disabled protected-mode interrupt handling. I've since enabled it and it's all working without issue, which is confusing as …

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Shuttle ITX Win98/WinXP Dual Boot

Posted on 2020-05-27, 15:05

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by philmac

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OK, so this isn't a dream build, more of a resurrection build :P Shuttle make a range of small-form-factor PC barebones builds. They provide the PSU, motherboard and case, all you have to do is drop in your CPU, RAM, storage and you're good to go. I bought one of these in 2005, and used it as my …

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Re: Windows 98 SE: IDE Compatibility Mode issues

Posted on 2020-05-24, 16:59

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by philmac

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Good Job philmac ! I am bookmarking this topic as the Win98 drive compatibilty issue comes up often Yeah, it was a pig to get working. The nVidia nForce drivers CD that came with the Shuttle had bundled copies for Win98/2000/XP. The 2000/XP drivers had their own storage driver for both the PATA and …

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