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Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-12, 02:58

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

The voodoo 3 is overkill for a P2. hell, even a pair of voodoo 2's can make a 333-p2 work for its money. Personally i'd go with the awe64 for the P2. And you ALWAYS max out the ram. (with a p2 dont go over 512mb) having a k6-2 system and a p2 system is just redundant. the 486 looks good. again i'd …

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-12, 02:58

by Mau1wurf1977

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

Awesome! Should be an interesting project!

Re: UMC chipset PCI 486 mobo. AMD P90 CPU options?

Posted on 2011-05-12, 04:09

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

I haven't had any long-term success overclocking Cyrix 5x86 cpus. I have even attempted overclocking a Cyrix 5x86-100/4X at 33.3 x 4 = 133 and it would run for about 5 minutes worth of benchmarks, then hang at the DOS prompt. The Cyrix 5x86 literature warns against running at voltages outside of 3. …

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-12, 07:18

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

If you're only using the 1st build as a test pc then that P2 is ok, but from personal experience the difference in performance from pairing a Voodoo3 with a 500Mhz Katmai vs a 800Mhz Coppermine is staggering.

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-12, 09:28

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

I wouldn't bother replacing caps on a Slot 1 board, it's easier (and usually cheaper) to simply get another Slot 1 board. The Katmai 550 may not be dead, I've found cleaning the contacts with a paper cloth and some rubbing alcohol turns "dead" Slot 1 CPU's back to life on more then 1 occasion ;) …

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-12, 20:04

by SavantStrike

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

The voodoo 3 is overkill for a P2. hell, even a pair of voodoo 2's can make a 333-p2 work for its money. Personally i'd go with the awe64 for the P2. And you ALWAYS max out the ram. (with a p2 dont go over 512mb) having a k6-2 system and a p2 system is just redundant. the 486 looks good. again i'd …

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-12, 20:17

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

For the Pentium II, unless you're running Windows 9x, put in all the RAM you want though after 512mb, you might have plenty of RAM going to waste. Windows 98SE, aside from not having much use for more than 512mb, tends to not like running with more than 512k. If you're speaking from a cache …

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-12, 22:11

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

I believe the pentium 2 only had a cacaheable area of 512MB. So going over 512MB may actually reduce performance. This is a processor limitation since the L2 cache and its controller are located on the processor - whereas with the previous generation Pentium the L2 cache was on the motherboard and …

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-12, 22:19

by SquallStrife

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

GXL750 wrote: Windows 98SE, aside from not having much use for more than 512mb, tends to not like running with more than 512k. In my experience, 98SE has stability problems even at 512MB of RAM. The Unofficial Service Pack that's floating around fixes it.

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-12, 22:33

by Ace

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

What's wrong with going over 512MB? Is there a chipset limitation? I know the 440BX chipset can support 1GB (but that usually works out to 768MB if the board only has 3 dimm slots. The OP is going with a VIA chipset though so it could support less. I will only go for VIA if the motherboard I found …

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-12, 22:43

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

Win 9x has stability problems, period. Read about the "resource memory" limitation because that's one of my favorites. 😀

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-12, 22:48

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

I believe the pentium 2 only had a cacaheable area of 512MB. So going over 512MB may actually reduce performance. Will it reduce performance for all of the memory or just memory above 512mb? Either way, then if you actually fill over 512mb of ram, your system would still run better than if it had …

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-12, 23:21

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

Only the 1st P2's had the 512MB limit. Later ones had the cacheable area go up to 4GB Clicky here , then do a search for "Pentium II 233 MMX" Seems Klamath had the 512MB limitation while Deschutes went up to 4GB Edit:Theres 1 reason not to just put some random PC-133 memory in a board. It might …

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-12, 23:27

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

Apparently there are chipset limitations as well, 440LX is 512MB while 440BX is 1GB. I have a feeling that the LX and BX limits might be exactly the same. Officially LX only supports up to 128MB per memory module while BX supports 256MB memory modules, but from my own experience LX works with 256MB …

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-12, 23:33

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

I believe the pentium 2 only had a cacaheable area of 512MB. So going over 512MB may actually reduce performance. Will it reduce performance for all of the memory or just memory above 512mb? Either way, then if you actually fill over 512mb of ram, your system would still run better than if it had …

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-13, 00:12

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

I learn something new everyday.

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-13, 01:55

by SavantStrike

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

Good point about the Win9x memory limits. Oddly enough, I've never run into stability issues at 768MB of SDRAM or 1GB of DDR, even with 256mb video cards (so yeah, I've gone asking for trouble and had none that I could detect). But then again I have only been using the systems for gaming, and none …

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-13, 02:19

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

Tetrium wrote: Even 256MB is plentyfull 😉 I know. Outdoing the RAM is overrated especially since you're never going to utilize it all at once anyway. 512MB won't make XP smooth.

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-13, 09:11

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

Reading about the 4GB cacheable memory limit on the later PII's makes me want to try that though, but only on 2k or above as 9x is limited to 2GB :). 64GB for the PPro and the Xeons is really impressive. The only problem is, BX maxes out @ 1GB. The only way to get past 1GB on a Deschutes is by …

Re: Pentium II and 486/AMD K-6 builds in progress

Posted on 2011-05-13, 15:38

by SavantStrike

in Marvin \ System Specs

in Marvin \ System Specs

Reading about the 4GB cacheable memory limit on the later PII's makes me want to try that though, but only on 2k or above as 9x is limited to 2GB :). 64GB for the PPro and the Xeons is really impressive. The only problem is, BX maxes out @ 1GB. The only way to get past 1GB on a Deschutes is by …

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