Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 14:51

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by krivulak

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Hello, my topic is pretty much describing itself, I am fiddling with that forever, and I can't make DOS to work with more then 640K of RAM. I have installed 8 megabytes! Why this piece of thing is not seeing at all, even when Windows 95 saw it?! Argh, it's driving me crazy, I can't run nothing, not …

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 15:03

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by konc

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For a start, post the output of the mem /c command. It's highly probable that your issue has an easy solution, don't get mad about it 😀

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 15:12

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by krivulak

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OK, there it is. Modules using memory below 1 MB: Name Total = Conventional + Upper Memory -------- ---------------- ---------------- ---------------- MSDOS 16 141 (16K) 16 141 (16K) 0 (0K) HIMEM 1 168 (1K) 1 168 (1K) 0 (0K) EMM386 3 120 (3K) 3 120 (3K) 0 (0K) COMMAND 2 928 (3K) 2 928 (3K) 0 (0K) …

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 15:24

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by appleiiguy

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It's all there 7 MB of XMS plus 1 mb of conventional + upper memory.

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 15:38

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by krivulak

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Yeah, I know that, but no program can use it. Only drivers are loaded there, even with loadhigh it keeps to load everything in conventional memory.

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 17:05

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by konc

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Yeah, I know that, but no program can use it. Only drivers are loaded there, even with loadhigh it keeps to load everything in conventional memory. Your configuration seems OK, if not more than that. There is no (memory) reason that, for example, Wolfenstein doesn't start. You have more than enough …

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 17:20

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by krivulak

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OK then, but why I can't run Wolfenstein? By the way, Commander Keen sometimes load, sometimes not. Very weird...

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 18:24

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by Jorpho

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Yeah, I know that, but no program can use it. Only drivers are loaded there, even with loadhigh it keeps to load everything in conventional memory. That is generally how upper memory works. Have you tried doing a virus scan? There have been a couple of posts here in the past where mysterious memory …

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 18:36

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by skitters

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Does any of the info here help? http://www.wolfenstein3d.co.uk/troubleshooting.htm He talks about tweaking config.sys and emm386 not loading high by default. Or considering your mem output, could this be a case of "too much" memory for the game to detect? or xms when the game wants ems?

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 18:38

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by krivulak

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Virus is close to impossible, the OS was installed yesterday, what I only installed was DOS 6.22, Windows 3.11, ČD screensaver, mouse, cd and soundcard drivers and M602 manager. If I try to run Wolfenstein, it hangs on first "pc capability" screen with no info and text One moment... Forever. When I …

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 19:01

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by dr_st

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Perhaps your hardware is faulty.

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 19:03

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by Snayperskaya

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Whats on your autoexec.bat and config.sys ?

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 19:29

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by krivulak

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Just ran 5 loops of MemTest86+ V2.0, everything is OK. Autoexec.bat: SET BLASTER=A220 I9 D3 T4 LH C:\OPL3SAX\SETUPSA.EXE /S REM ---------------------- MTM ATAPI CD-ROM ---------------------- LH /L:1,36224 C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MTMIDE01 /M:10 REM ---------------------- MTM ATAPI CD-ROM …

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 19:35

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by Snayperskaya

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Tried removing the "NOEMS" already?

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 19:39

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by krivulak

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Yup, didn't work.

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 19:48

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by dr_st

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I just realised sound card was having some WSS I/O errors and SB checksum errors, had to changed values but I don't know what I did to make it to work. Maybe this could be somehow colliding with something. But I didn't find better driver (soundcard Yamaha OPL3-SAx with YMF719E-S sound chip). Try …

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 20:10

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by krivulak

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Ok, this is SUPER weird. When I disabled the sound driver, Wolf started running. Even the sound came from speakers, but only some of them. Like picking up medkits and golds did, but guns and nazi shoutings didn't. But now it's clear. There is the problem. So I can trash the only driver for that …

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 20:20

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by Snayperskaya

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I had a similar problem with EMS. Switched to UMBPCI and all my memory problems vanished instantly. Reported it on this topic. Huge props to everyone put loads of cool and useful stuff on this site. Helped me tons.

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 20:46

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by Jorpho

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In cases like this, sometimes it's best to go back to the essentials. Take out anything unnecessary in the config.sys and autoexec.bat and see if things start running again. You should probably have DOS=HIGH,UMB right after HIMEM rather than on two separate lines, for instance, and I don't think you …

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Re: Can't run a thing on my AMD 486DX2 PC

Posted on 2015-06-22, 20:55

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by krivulak

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OK, I will try that tomorrow, because I must go sleep now, but I will post update!

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