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Re: Build log - Windows XP DX9 EAX AMD Retro Gaming PC

Posted on 2015-11-26, 15:17

My Win XP 32 Bit system is at the moment: Athlon XP 3200+ (FSB400) on an Asrock nForce2 Ultra RAID board with 4 GB RAM, Geforce 6800GT, SB Xi-Fi xTremeMusic, Intel 1000GT, WD 150 GB VelociRaptor, EnerMax 365W PSU and a few other components.

Re: Build log - Windows XP DX9 EAX AMD Retro Gaming PC

Posted on 2015-11-26, 15:49

by PhilsComputerLab

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

My Win XP 32 Bit system is at the moment: Athlon XP 3200+ (FSB400) on an Asrock nForce2 Ultra RAID board with 4 GB RAM, Geforce 6800GT, SB Xi-Fi xTremeMusic, Intel 1000GT, WD 150 GB VelociRaptor, EnerMax 365W PSU and a few other components. Very nice. More period correct too. Does the X-Fi offer …

Re: Build log - Windows XP DX9 EAX AMD Retro Gaming PC

Posted on 2015-11-26, 15:57

by Oldbitcollector

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

I just built a very similar xp system a couple weeks ago for myself. Differences being that I used that Yamaha XG soundcard and voodoo3 card. Some interesting notes and challenges: * Microsoft will still approve the coa by phone/computer with a sales pitch for Windows 10. Ha!!! * Service pack 3 …

Re: AMD K5 - enable write allocate

Posted on 2015-11-26, 16:32

by swaaye

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

I tried enwa.exe earlier but couldn't get it working for some reason. But I've tried it again and now it's working. I don't know what I was doing before... But I tested Quake again and it is slower with enwa.exe as well. I also tried k5.sys with the fixed range exemption enabled which prevents WA in …

Re: AMD K5 - enable write allocate

Posted on 2015-11-26, 20:30

by feipoa

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

How does the slow down compare in software mode vs. 3D accelerated mode?

Re: Build log - Windows XP DX9 EAX AMD Retro Gaming PC

Posted on 2015-11-26, 20:41

by gdjacobs

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

My Win XP 32 Bit system is at the moment: Athlon XP 3200+ (FSB400) on an Asrock nForce2 Ultra RAID board with 4 GB RAM, Geforce 6800GT, SB Xi-Fi xTremeMusic, Intel 1000GT, WD 150 GB VelociRaptor, EnerMax 365W PSU and a few other components. Very nice. More period correct too. You're assuming there …

Re: Build log - Windows XP DX9 EAX AMD Retro Gaming PC

Posted on 2015-11-26, 21:05

by alexanrs

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

You're assuming there was a Windows Vista era. To me, everything up to Windows 7 RTM in 2009 was a perfectly acceptable machine from the XP period. I prefer to pretend Vista never existed. C'mon, Vista wasn't THAT BAD. Until Windows 7 came along Vista was the only OS that could give you DX10, and …

Re: Build log - Windows XP DX9 EAX AMD Retro Gaming PC

Posted on 2015-11-26, 21:19

by gdjacobs

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Agreed, DX10 and 64 bit were the two levers Microsoft tried to use to push Vista on users. Their execution was absolutely terrible, though. By the time Vista is modified with patches and mods for acceptable performance and usability, it's essentially a new OS.

Re: Build log - Windows XP DX9 EAX AMD Retro Gaming PC

Posted on 2015-11-26, 21:42

by brostenen

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

The only thing I like better on Vista, is the layout on the GUI.

Re: Build log - Windows XP DX9 EAX AMD Retro Gaming PC

Posted on 2015-11-26, 22:14

by Firtasik

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

philscomputerlab wrote: I will also have to checkout the drivers. I might go with something more period correct, but will try the latest and greatest driver first. Some older games have problems with drivers newer than 13.1.

Re: Build log - Windows XP DX9 EAX AMD Retro Gaming PC

Posted on 2015-11-27, 01:25

by PhilsComputerLab

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

I will also have to checkout the drivers. I might go with something more period correct, but will try the latest and greatest driver first. Some older games have problems with drivers newer than 13.1. Good to know! Got another processor that might be more suitable. It's an Athlon II X2: http://i. …

Re: Build log - Windows XP DX9 EAX AMD Retro Gaming PC

Posted on 2015-11-27, 01:40

by alexanrs

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Agreed, DX10 and 64 bit were the two levers Microsoft tried to use to push Vista on users. Their execution was absolutely terrible, though. By the time Vista is modified with patches and mods for acceptable performance and usability, it's essentially a new OS. I used Vista back then and it wasn't …

Re: AMD K5 - enable write allocate

Posted on 2015-11-27, 03:58

by swaaye

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

feipoa wrote: How does the slow down compare in software mode vs. 3D accelerated mode? Ok I installed VQuake and did more runs of "timedemo demo1" at 320x200 with the Verite V1000. Write allocate is faster in this case. I see 45.5fps without and 45.9-46.0fps with WA. I used enwa.exe.

Re: AMD K5 - enable write allocate

Posted on 2015-11-27, 04:18

by feipoa

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Not exactly awe-inspiring but at least the tides have turned. Do higher resolutions fare any better?

Re: Build log - Windows XP DX9 EAX AMD Retro Gaming PC

Posted on 2015-11-27, 05:08

by gdjacobs

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

As far as Vista, I'll name some problems off the top: Aero performance issues (those crappy Intel GMA systems just made it worse) UAC nagging reduced gaming performance bad driver support 300 extra layers of UI abstraction (a nice preview of what would come with Windows 8 ) Until users had …

Re: Build log - Windows XP DX9 EAX AMD Retro Gaming PC

Posted on 2015-11-27, 15:58

by PhilsComputerLab

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Flashing the BIOS I ALWAYS flash the latest BIOS. Even if it's not needed, I like doing this. There is just something about having the latest and greatest :lol: What is awesome is that with Windows XP gear, all the drivers, BIOS files, manuals are readily available for download from the …

Re: AMD K5 - enable write allocate

Posted on 2015-11-27, 18:12

by swaaye

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Not exactly awe-inspiring but at least the tides have turned. Do higher resolutions fare any better? Yeah it looks like write allocate is not much of a benefit. The V1000 is most likely going to be a bottleneck much above 320x200 so I didn't do any comparisons at higher resolutions. I did do one …

Re: AMD K5 - enable write allocate

Posted on 2015-11-27, 18:52

by feipoa

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Try a more powerful graphics card?

Re: AMD K5 - enable write allocate

Posted on 2015-11-27, 19:08

by BSA Starfire

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

I really don't understand why you folk all insist on using Quake as a benchmark for non Intel CPU's when we all know it was specifically hand coded for Pentium architecture and it's pipelined FPU. To me it seems like trying to run a racing car on diesel instead of petrol.

Re: AMD K5 - enable write allocate

Posted on 2015-11-27, 19:35

by swaaye

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

I did use Wing Commander 3, Wintune and Sisoft Sandra as well. Quake is easy to bench, and vQuake is easy to install. Wing Commander 3 has a massive performance drop for some mysterious reason when WA is enabled. It might run 50% slower. Both video speed and CPU speed are slower. It does seem like …

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