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Re: To end the AMD v. Intel debate.

Posted on 2019-12-05, 13:08

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However, Zen was a deliberate and counter-intuitive choice to solve the problems I listed above. I don't see how it would be counter-intuitive, to be honest. Smaller dies -> higher yields. Doesn't get more intuitive than that. We've known this for decades. And as said, other companies have done …

Re: To end the AMD v. Intel debate.

Posted on 2019-12-05, 14:29

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Firtasik's charts had a $1100 Intel CPU topping the charts of a few games with Ryzen 3800x about 7-8FPS behind it, which costs about $300. i5 9600K costs about $200 and it beats 3800x (about $370) in some games. Yeah, this is where I'm at a crossroads building a new rig. Can't decide between those …

Re: To end the AMD v. Intel debate.

Posted on 2019-12-05, 14:45

Yeah, this is where I'm at a crossroads building a new rig. Can't decide between those two....flip a coin? I would say that you should get whatever performs best in the fields you want it to. If you use programs (or games) that are heavily multi-threaded, I would go for whatever has more cores/ …

Re: To end the AMD v. Intel debate.

Posted on 2019-12-05, 16:28

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I don't see how it would be counter-intuitive, to be honest. Smaller dies -> higher yields. Doesn't get more intuitive than that. We've known this for decades. And as said, other companies have done that many times before in the past, and currently choose to stack chips on top of eachother, in a …

Re: To end the AMD v. Intel debate.

Posted on 2019-12-05, 16:45

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Firtasik's charts had a $1100 Intel CPU topping the charts of a few games with Ryzen 3800x about 7-8FPS behind it, which costs about $300. i5 9600K costs about $200 and it beats 3800x (about $370) in some games. Yeah, this is where I'm at a crossroads building a new rig. Can't decide between those …

Re: To end the AMD v. Intel debate.

Posted on 2019-12-05, 18:01

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Intel didn't have a true successor to Penryn and the G45 chipset in the value and business segments until Arrandale and Clarkdale came out, so I'm not sure the analogy holds. I'm pretty sure it does. You are trying to make an economical argument (using some arbitrary metric like value/business …

Re: To end the AMD v. Intel debate.

Posted on 2019-12-05, 18:07

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Scali wrote: Now you are confusing things. You are showing an example of PCB-level stacking. Which is clearly different from die-stacking. about as similar as comparing AMDs multi-chip CPU architecture with a GPU and CPU die on the same PCB 😜

Re: To end the AMD v. Intel debate.

Posted on 2019-12-05, 20:25

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But can we at least stick to the facts? sure... west_1.jpg see that green square thing under the dies? that is in fact a PCB :) oh the horror. combine that with the dies and the heatspreader (and maybe a few capacitors, solder/TIM) and you completed the package. yes, westmere has the memory …

Re: To end the AMD v. Intel debate.

Posted on 2019-12-06, 00:06

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In all seriousness though... look... it's easy, instead of throwing insults at me you could just explain to me what the difference between a regular PCB and the FR4 substrate under the CPU die is for example (is it just that they're technically not "printed"?) cause to me PCB always meant a board …

Re: To end the AMD v. Intel debate.

Posted on 2019-12-06, 13:40

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The first step to solve a problem is to admit it. XD Yes, so the other side has to admit. As I stated very clearly, I have nothing to admit, the problem simply isn't with me. I have given a very clear description of what the problem is. Prove otherwise first, and then perhaps you have an argument. …

Re: To end the AMD v. Intel debate.

Posted on 2019-12-06, 18:51

I like Scalis technical mumbo jumbo, can't follow most of it, but things that I know to be true through my own technical experience have agreed with things Scali has said... so I'm inclined to believe him... and he's being doing it a looong time (I followed some of his articles in flipcode like 18 …

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