Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-23, 17:42
Fastest W98 PCI card is a FX5700 PCI (rare) But not with K6 processor.
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-23, 18:57
I suspect you are searching the best option for the Packard Bell you are working on in you latest videos (great videos, by the way). There are a couple of , non expensive, Matrox (G450 & 550) PCI cards published right now on eBay (USA). I am not sure I am allowed to share those links here. If …
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-23, 18:58
Hi, I'd like to help, but my experience with 3D accelerators is limited. The FX5200, though, is something had experience with. I used it many years ago for my sister's PC, so she could get Win 7 running in Aero Glass mode (needs Shader Model 2). From what I can tell, the card is/was quite …
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-23, 19:01
A GeForce2 MX paired with period correct drivers should perform quite well on that CPU. Later Nvidia cards need newer drivers which expect more modern CPUs. Didn't realize these older PCI cards were so expensive ... been collecting retro stuff for almost 2 years now and never really paid much …
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 10:33
RetroSpector78 wrote on 2020-10-24, 10:23: I've been testing with a Geforce2 MX 400 64MB PCI card right now, and it performs a little bit slower than the FX5500. All using the nvidia 45.23 driver. That driver may be too new. Try version 8.05 instead. Also, stick to a DirectX version 7.0a.
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 12:33
I've just been through a very similar scenario, although not quite similar enough to be helpful to you. My system is an Aptiva 2196, which is a small form factor machine with K6-2+ 533 and SiS onboard everything. As soon as I got it the search was on for a PCI sound card & video card - but the …
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 13:08
That driver may be too new. Try version 8.05 instead. Also, stick to a DirectX version 7.0a. Small improvement indeed for Quake3 with the video driver downgrade. Quake 3 went up from 17.5fps to 23.5fps (OpenGL) But Unreal Tournament city intro went down from 14fps to 11fps (Direct3D, OpenGL crashed …
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 13:21
I've just been through a very similar scenario, although not quite similar enough to be helpful to you. My system is an Aptiva 2196, which is a small form factor machine with K6-2+ 533 and SiS onboard everything. As soon as I got it the search was on for a PCI sound card & video card - but the …
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 14:01
Small improvement indeed for Quake3 with the video driver downgrade. Quake 3 went up from 17.5fps to 23.5fps (OpenGL) But Unreal Tournament city intro went down from 14fps to 11fps (Direct3D, OpenGL crashed with both driver versions) 3DMark 99 performance was also a bit lower with the older driver. …
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 14:54
Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament are not meant to be played on SS7 :) That being said, your benchmark scores seem very low. What frequency is your K6-2 running at? On a K6-2+ 550 MHz & an AGP GeForce 2 MX (with driver version 7.76) I get ~ 40 FPS in Quake 3 at 640 x 480 x 16 (without any other fine …
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 17:07
Do you have any other devices besides the VGA/sound card (like a USB 2.0 PCI card, maybe)? If yes, remove them. By the way, what sound card are you using? The GeForce 2 MX (even on PCI) should be able to handle much more than 60 FPS in Quake 3 at 640x480x16.
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 17:18
No Permedia 2 on your List ? If you use PCI Cards you should avoid using 33Mhz PCI Cards at the Same Time or you will kill your Bandwith. (Eg legacy Network Cards.., Ancient SCSI Stuff..) For 3Dfx, it does not matter if PCI or AGP. The V3 does not support AGP Features anyway.
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 17:19
The GeForce 2 MX (even on PCI) should be able to handle much more than 60 FPS in Quake 3 at 640x480x16. Eh no. GeForce 2-4 cards on PCI bus suffer quite greatly, when it comes to max FPS, which drags average FPS in Quake 3 timedemos below 100 fps even on much more powerful CPUs.
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 17:21
The Serpent Rider wrote on 2020-10-23, 17:42: Fastest W98 PCI card is a FX5700 PCI (rare) But not with K6 processor. i guess a ATI Radeon 9550 PCI with 256Mb and 128bit is faster then this FX Stuff. And as it shares same GPU then 9600 Series you also can OC if you get good RAM on it.
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 17:23
For 3Dfx, it does not matter if PCI or AGP. AGP always matter, because it's a dedicated slot tied to north bridge, with very straightforward access to RAM and doubled exclusive bandwidth.
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 17:44
I can not make out any difference Benching V3 PCI vs AGP. only about 1-3%. Bandwith is same as AGP 1x on PCI 66Mhz.
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 18:02
But you will not get 66 Mhz PCI on consumer boards. You can only overclock from their 33 MHz.
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 18:03
The GeForce 2 MX (even on PCI) should be able to handle much more than 60 FPS in Quake 3 at 640x480x16. Eh no. GeForce 2-4 cards on PCI bus suffer quite greatly, when it comes to max FPS, which drags average FPS in Quake 3 timedemos below 100 fps even on much more powerful CPUs. Well, we agree. :) …
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 18:48
Granted, I never tested any GeForce 2 - 4 cards on PCI (don't have any), but I do have an FX 5500 PCI, and on a Pentium 3 Coppermine 1 GHz I got about 80 FPS in Quake 3 @ 1024 x 768. Of course, that card is useless for SS7, because of the newer drivers, which would tank the performance. But still, …
Re: Direct3D gaming with a PCI videocard on an AMD K6-2 platform on windows 98se
Posted on 2020-10-24, 18:56
In the Super7 machines it’s unlikely you will find a 66Mhz slot. But on Socket A there a few and P4 platform. I properly was mistaken and only some newer boards have 66Mhz support. The k6 has weak fpu not so useful for 3D
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