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First post, by RaVeN-05

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I am surfing internet and it looks like every console, every platform, computer is emulated.
So i catch my mind on "is there something that is not emulated?"
and i found:

Playdia
Casio Loopy
N-Gage
N-Gage (service)
digiBlast
Pippin
Zeebo (nice exclusive is alice pais maravilhas https://youtu.be/JJABY7FT6iQ?t=8m11s )
V.Flash
Roku
PC-8000
Nintendo Switch
MeeGo
Leapster
LaserActive
Glulx
Game Wave
GP2X Wiz
Fire OS
DoJa
Dedicated handheld
BREW
ExEn
PC Booter
PS Vita
PlayStation 4
TADS
Terminal
Windows Apps? wtf is it?
Windows Phone
Zune
iPhone
tvOS
watchOS
iPod Classic
iPad
bada
Zodiac
VIS
V.Smile
Tomy Tutor
Symbian
Sharp Zaurus
Maemo
LeapTV
Kindle Classic
GameStick
GP2X
FRED/COSMAC
Didj
Dedicated console
BlackBerry
Xbox (not perfect)
TRS-80 Model II's
...
MPEG2 reciever boxes
RealMagic MPEG Decoder cards
~early 3d accelarator card look at 3D Accelerated Games List (Proprietary APIs - No 3DFX/Direct3D)

Palm OS - removed from list, emulators exist

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Reply 1 of 17, by Errius

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I understand that emulation of the original Xbox is generally poor or absent for various reasons.

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Reply 2 of 17, by leileilol

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Old satellite reciever boxes. MPEG2 patent's gone, so those boxes could probably get emulated and fed a faux signal of like a twitch stream or something else made of MPEG2

by the way, DOSBox is not for running Windows 9x

Reply 4 of 17, by RaVeN-05

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leileilol wrote:

Old satellite reciever boxes. MPEG2 patent's gone, so those boxes could probably get emulated and fed a faux signal of like a twitch stream or something else made of MPEG2

it sounds like TV technology to me.
or video calls?
fed a faux signal - don't know what is it?

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Reply 5 of 17, by IAmJefferson

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LaserActive and Galaxian 3 - Both of them are notoriously difficult to emulate due to the analogue video from the laserdisc composited with digital in-game sprites.

The m68k-based Palms (from Palm OS 1.0 to 4.0) can be emulated right away using the official "Palm OS Emulator" (formerly Copilot) (see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_OS_Emulator). ARM-based Palms can be emulated straightforward using the Garnet VM (an obsucre piece of Palm OS 5 emulation) for Windows/Linux and StyleTap for Android/Windows Mobile platforms (https://styletap.com/). Keep in mind that the ARM-based Palm emulators cannot run Tapwave Zodiac-based games, as they use proprietary APIs that the Zodiac uses.

Reply 6 of 17, by gompertz

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N64 emulation has also been very far from perfect. Actually I've found it downright unplayable, granted I haven't tried in a couple years.

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Reply 7 of 17, by leileilol

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Mupen64Plus with the SoftGraphic plugin is pretty nice. N64 looking properly filtered, filtered, properly sized screen buffers, Indy working, etc.

by the way, DOSBox is not for running Windows 9x

Reply 9 of 17, by RaVeN-05

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What is the best RealMagic MPEG decoder card?
For compatibility with maximum amount of games designed for it?
And there is complete list for it?

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Reply 10 of 17, by vladstamate

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RaVeN-05 wrote:

Nintendo Switch

There is, although not fully functional yet, it will be at some point: Yuzu - https://yuzu-emu.org. Also https://zoltx23.github.io/ryujinx-emu/

RaVeN-05 wrote:

Dedicated handheld

Like what?

RaVeN-05 wrote:

iPhone
tvOS
watchOS

They exist. Just not public, cannot reveal more. Although for public consumption you do get access to a one as part of the iOS developer program.

RaVeN-05 wrote:

Dedicated console

Again what do you mean? For example most of the Odyssey ones do have emulators from the mostly analog Magnavox Odyssey all the way to Odyssey 3000.

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Reply 11 of 17, by Kerr Avon

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gompertz wrote:

N64 emulation has also been very far from perfect. Actually I've found it downright unplayable, granted I haven't tried in a couple years.

I've not really tried N64 emulation in a couple of years* (I use the real console plus an Everdrive 64 flash cartridge, the latter is great for running modded/hacked N64 games), but when I have tried N64 emulation, it's often been problematic even if I do hit on the best combination of the right emulator, the right version of that emulator, the right plug-ins, and the right settings for those plugins.

I know there must have been good reasons for N64 emulators to have plugins and lots of options back when they were first released; different plug-ins allowed different people to work on improving graphical/audio/control-related etc aspects of the emulator, plus different people have differently capable PCs, so one PC could run a more accurate plugin, whereas a slower PC could be made to run a less demanding plug-in that was less accurate than the more demanding plug-in. But it's more than fifteen years since then so by now I'd have thought that N64 emulators would automatically know which plug-ins are the best for a given situation and so not need any user interaction but that wasn't the case the last time I tried N64 emulation.

Anyway apparently current emulation of the Gamecube and the Wii is better/more accurate than current N64 emulation.

There are two cycle-accurate N64 emulators in development (Cen64, and the N64 part of the emulator called MESS), which in theory will run every N64 game with 100% authenticity, but they are a long way from complete as yet. Plus sadly it's looking like Cen64 might have been abandoned, to judge from the lack of activity on it's official forum (see: https://forums.cen64.com/index.php), though it's not a major problem at the moment because probably no existing PC is yet powerful enough to run a cycle-accurate N64 emulator at full speed.

* The only time I do use an N64 emulator is when testing a rom hack of Goldeneye or Perfect Dark when I'm at work (and skiving off!) as of course I don't have my N64 with me then. N64 emulation of those two games (Perfect Dark, and Goldeneye) is very good indeed if you use the modded version of the emulator 1964 (from http://www.shootersforever.com/forums_message … f3cfa33a842c3f4). This allows the two games to have a much better frame-rate than they ever did on the real hardware plus it's pre-set to use the usual PC first person shooter controls (WASD keys plus the mouse). Unfortunately it's only guaranteed to run well with those two games as those are the only two games that were targeted by the two people who modded 1964 for this purpose (and they both had to put in a lot of effort to succeed).

leileilol wrote:

Mupen64Plus with the SoftGraphic plugin is pretty nice. N64 looking properly filtered, filtered, properly sized screen buffers, Indy working, etc.

The last time I tried Muppen (or Muppen64Plus, whatever it was I tried) it didn't have a front-end, I take it that's been added now? It's great to know that Indiana Jones works now, Factor 5's games were notoriously difficult to emulate, and I was disappointed that the game was never released in the UK (the PAL version was completed but never reached the shops for some reason but it was leaked onto the 'net a few years ago so we can play it now).

Reply 12 of 17, by Kerr Avon

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Errius wrote:

I understand that emulation of the original Xbox is generally poor or absent for various reasons.

From what I've seen, emulation of the original XBox is at the very early end of "Proof of concept" stage, and was still stuck there a few years back, the last time I bothered looking into it. I.e. only download and try it if you need to see that someone has made extremely early attempts at the emulation. Not even one single game was fully playable.

I've not particularly kept up with the progress of XBox emulation (I'm happy playing on real hardware), but I've always wanted XBox emulation to be possible and accurate so that non-XBox gamers could appreciate the exclusive games that deserved a larger audience. There

These games include Unreal Championship 2, and Breakdown, two fantastic first person shooters that never appeared on any other machine, and so they almost always fail to appear on any "100 best games"/"The 25 best first person shooters"/etc type lists, even though Unreal Championship 2 is in some ways the best Unreal game ever (which shows how great it is) and Breakdown is pretty unique and very, very good (aside from it's almost vertical difficulty curve - I don't doubt that if Breakdown had been released on the PC, then it would be a favourite amongst speed-runners)

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Reply 13 of 17, by Mister Xiado

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RaVeN-05 wrote:

BlackBerry

Research in Motion (before they went stupid and changed their name to that of their product line) had BlackBerry emulators/simulators that ran in Java (like the actual phones) on their site to facilitate application development and testing, as well as mobile web design tailored to the phones. The simulator for BB OS 10 is still online (http://developer.blackberry.com/devzone/devel … ator/index.html), and there's a PRIV emulator as well. The majority of older device simulators are offline, but if you can contact RIM/BlackBerry via their site, they may be able to help. I haven't messed with any of that stuff since I was the Lord and Master of all things BlackBerry at AT&T.

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Reply 14 of 17, by RaVeN-05

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also no emulations for :
Amazon Alexa
Astral 2000
Compucorp Programmable Calculator
Heathkit H11
Ideal-Computer
Jolt
Oculus Go
SD-050/070/090
TIM
Tele-Spiel ES-2201
Tomahawk F1
Compucolor I
HP Programmable Calculator
Interton Video 2000
Noval 760
SRI-500/1000
TI Programmable Calculator
Tektronix 4050
Telstar Arcade

(i get it from mobygames newely added platforms)

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Reply 16 of 17, by Errius

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Video on the challenges of Xbox emulation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97mQcus7wFI

A recurring problem is people underestimating the difficulties involved and giving up in frustration

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Reply 17 of 17, by Rekrul

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Atari Jaguar emulation sucks also. So far the most compatible emulator has been Phoenix Project and even that has a bunch of games it won't run. The others, Project Tempest and Virtual Jaguar are more like alpha versions at best. None of them can emulate the Jaguar CD.

There's also no emulator for the Coleco Telstar Arcade, an early cartridge system.