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Blood crashes on me

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First post, by argan

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Hmm, if I could only get blood NOT to crash I would probably buy Glidos...as it is now, I can play a few minutes, but then it suddenly crashes and throws me out to the desktop. In the help section it says to make sure hint boxes from VDMS are not enabled, but I haven't found a way to disable them. How do I do that? Since I figured this is a problem with VDMS, I did not post any system specs.

Reply 1 of 17, by Snover

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Since I figured this is a problem with VDMS, I did not post any system specs.

That's the stupidest logic I've ever heard.

Yes, it’s my fault.

Reply 2 of 17, by argan

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Okay, nevermind that then.

P4 2,66 Ghz
512 DDR RAM
Geforce4 128MB Ti4600
Sound Blaster Audigy
Win Xp
Blood (v 1.20 with the 3dfx patch)
What is Reproducibility?
Using VDMS
Direct 3D, 1280*1024

Reply 3 of 17, by Unregistered

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What is Reproducibility?

Does the bug/glitch/crash happen everytime, or is it just a random thing? Does the bug/crash seem to happen only when something else is going on? In other words, does the game always crash when it tries to play a certain sound, or when you pick up a certain item? Does it always crash after exactly 5 minutes of gameplay, etc.

Reply 4 of 17, by argan

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No, it is just totally random, it can crash after 2 minutes or 10 minutes, and doesn't depend on anything special.

Reply 5 of 17, by Qbix

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well random crashes don't exist

they always happen for a reason, it might be something that's isn't visible on the outside though.

that's the problem.

So it happends because of something special but not that evident.😀

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Reply 6 of 17, by argan

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I could just let the game run, without doing anything and it would still crash, I bet.

Reply 7 of 17, by Nicht Sehr Gut

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Originally posted by argan I could just let the game run, without doing anything and it would still crash, I bet.

Don't know if you ever used it; but, if you ever ran Cli2Nop on the game's executable, it will reduce it's overall stability.

Having said that, when all else fails, start over with the basics:

Switch back to the game's original executable (not the 3dfx version). Configure the game to run in 320x200 resolution with "None" for Sound effects and music. Start up the game and let it run through it's demos. Does it run stably?

Reply 8 of 17, by argan

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I have tried that, and then it runst perfectly stable. As soon as I try to run it with sound, though, that's when it happens, so it must be something about that.

Typical that its just BLOOD I have so much trouble with.

Reply 9 of 17, by Glidos

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Qbix wrote:
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well random crashes don't exist

they always happen for a reason, it might be something that's isn't visible on the outside though.

that's the problem.

So it happends because of something special but not that evident.😀

Well, sometimes these problems can depend on fine timings between different processes and hardware events within the computer, and these timings in turn can depend to some degree on temperature, signal strengths and the like. I think the behaviour can be random under most definitions of the concept.

Without doubt computers often behave nondeterministically at high levels of abstraction with which we interact with them.

Reply 10 of 17, by argan

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In the support page it tells me to turn off the hint boxes that pops up whenever VDMS is used. Where do I do that? Can't even find a setup program.

Reply 11 of 17, by Glidos

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I don't think you would have gotten as far as you have if the hint box was turned on. To find out right-click on any DOS program and select "Run with VDMS". If no hint box appears then you are okay. If one does then it has a check box for disabling itself.

Reply 12 of 17, by argan

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Hmm, must be turned off then, I suppose.

Reply 13 of 17, by Nicht Sehr Gut

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Originally posted by argan I have tried that, and then it runst perfectly stable. As soon as I try to run it with sound, though, that's when it happens,

Then you can try running it with XP's native SoundBlaster emulation (at the very lowest quality settings for a basic SoundBlaster). If it still runs stable, try swapping out the normal game executable for the 3dfx version and run that.

FWIW, I found the 3dfx version to be unstable and the graphics improvement to be negligible.

Reply 14 of 17, by argan

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Kind of new to this, so how do I run it with Win XP SB emulation?

Reply 15 of 17, by argan

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Nevermind, I found it...and I used it on the setup file, and everything SEEMS TO WORK. Now only to get my money from my lazy arse friend so I can register glidos, too.🙄

Reply 16 of 17, by Nicht Sehr Gut

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Originally posted by argan Nevermind, I found it...and I used it on the setup file, and everything SEEMS TO WORK.

It works, but it's still worse than running it with VDMSound. I'm guessing that you're using VDMSound 2.04 with the GUI launchpad. If so, you should be aware that a bug (as mentioned in the Problem Children thread under the BUILD entry) will cause lock-ups. It's under Common Problem #5.

If you change the game's SB IRQ to 7 and use either "Run with VDMS" (no musical note) or use the "brute force" method mentioned, it should work.