Looks sweet! I keep vaguely abreast (!) of Lara's exploits in level editor land and have been intrigued by NGLE and TREP though haven't investigated them at all. I don't really have time for such things anymore, but if I do get a moment, your screens suggest I should try it out too...

Is this TRe3D?

No K. It is the Next Generation Level Editor (NGLE) by Paolone. A suped up version of Core's original Level Editor.

Wow, I'm a few stations behind. I knew about Tomo's TRGE exe, but I didn't release that the patching community had progressed that much during the last year.

It sounds very promising, although I don't quite understand the drama going on between the TREP patcher and the TRNG editor. Apparently, TREP development is dead. Is it because of compatibility issues with TRNG, or maybe because TRNG's author has announced that he will release his own patched engine later next year? It's a bit confusing.

I guess I would be about as confused as you are! What I have discovered is that, as it stands, there are no compatibility issues that affect what I am doing. I have used TREP to enable a reconstruction of certain TR1 elements that are not possible with the standard TR4.exe: standable-pushable blocks and spikes Lara can walk through for example; and to effect some wizardry that wasn't in the original game. I have almost completed the conversion of all the Peru levels, including the cut scene with Larson, and I haven't hit any snags yet!

Looks absolutely fab.

How are you proceeding about the levels conversion? I know TRe3D is compatible with all TR formats, but I thought TRNG was essentially a drop-in TRLE replacement (ie: only compatible with TR4 format). How are you importing TR1 levels into TR4? You're not rebuilding them from scratch, aren't you?

I am using a great little utility by Aktrekker called TR2prj. It reverse engineers the level files and converts them to a .prj file that can be loaded into NGLE (I don't think NGLE is the same thing as the TRNG that you keep going on about-but I might be wrong?). TR2prj does an almost perfect job - just the odd little discrepancy or two, which are usually quite straightforward to fix. That just leaves me to do the wallpaper job, the lighting and the additional accessories such as wolves and what-not. I have to do the re-texturing manually, but this is cool since I get to fix texture alignment to my heart's content! Recent additions to TREP include the ability to include FMV - I need to think about that one....

man, I have to investigate that. Just the ability to sort out all the crappy alignment issues is enough of a reason for me. Can't wait to see your effort!

JC wrote:

I don't think NGLE is the same thing as the TRNG that you keep going on about-but I might be wrong?

TRNG (Tomb Raider Next Generation) is the set of tools which NGLE (Next Generation Level Editor) is a part of. The author Paolo Buratti has also announced that TRNG will soon include NGE (Next Generation Engine), a revised TR4 executable that should replace current patches like TREP.

Jc , that is some very neat stuff 😀

It looks like you are also changing a few of the textures from the ones you used in the glidos version ?

do you happen to have a couple of convenient links to the apps you are using for this conversion project ? and are you willing to share the modified maps ?

also from the webalizer of the trx page this new project of yours is generating some interest in your work ( also last month you had a pretty good month for total downloads ) .

Tomb Raider Next Generation (TR4 editor replacement)
Tomb Raider Engine Patcher (TR4 executable patcher)

Skribblerz is also a good entry point to look for editor tools (TR2prj, Strpix, etc).

You can get all the tools you need from here:
http://www.skribblerz.com/editortools.htm
Apart from the level editors (you need both the original and NGLE), you will need Wadmerger, Strpix and TR2prj. Fexinspect can come in useful too. There is little point in my sharing any maps becuse you can convert them from the level file in seconds and fixing any errors involves minimal work - apart from that I have added one extra secret to each level and I'm keeping them secret 😉

edit- nice one K...you were online same time as me!...I forgot to give directions to TREP!

Thank to the both of you gentlemen

I'm keeping them secret
😉

..hhmmm... interesting , so this implies a certain amount of passion (and a nice little hook) embroiled in your latest project 😀

JC, which levels you converted?

I just downloaded NGLE and with Map Texture Convecter I have option to make textures of just 128x128.How to load 256x256 textures? Can I just make my own, and load it through roomedit? 😕

Hi Anton! NGLE defaults to 128x128. You have to make your own TGA strip of 256x256s and in the editor you right click and drag to select the whole texture ready to apply. I am still putting the finishing touches on the Peru levels + cut scene!

edit- I forgot to warn you...theoretically you can use up to 64 256x256 textures per level, but in reality it turns out to be around 50 - I think the editor counts the part-textures you apply. One bonus though, is that you can apply additional big textures to all the objects using Wadmerger and Strpx. Overall it means that you are working to similar limitations that the original game restricts you to!

Hey guys sorry for posting in such an old thread but I havn't been here forever and I'm trying to find JC's conversion of TR1. The screens he posted look great. If JC or anyone can let me know if this was ever finished and show me where I can dl his levels I would greatly appreciate it, thanks.

I'm kinda speechless to witness JC's old(?) ongoing project.
Holy MAC!!!