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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Gambit37 » 2005-1-27 @ 12:05

The mapping from the numbered folders to the paths specified in a master file should work fine. What information would be lost?

Oh, I just realised -- of course you still need the numbered folders to indetify tiles of different content but with the same coordinate filenames.

OK, so you just need an extra subfolder in the flat file then:

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BASE: trx\

// level folders follow
// Level 1: The Caves

198EC2D38EF00FEA1653750E8B237D7F: levels\level01\tileset1
203D6ED9632B742A2209637764C375F6: levels\level01\tileset2
54637C4BF0304439B63F51D3A5EEA382: levels\level01\tileset3


What I'm trying to do is avoid having any numbered folders off the textures folder at all. I estimate that after capturing the entire game, there will be around 170 folders in there which will be quite unmanageable.
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Glidos » 2005-1-27 @ 12:09

Ok. Now that would work, and if I've gotten my class structure right, should be just a few lines of code change in one source file... but I bet I haven't. :happyhappy:
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Glidos » 2005-1-29 @ 16:58

Ok here it is then. Now if you have any files in the Textures folder that start with the line "GLIDOS TEXTURE MAPPING" they are treated as mappings from strange folder names to nice ones. You can put the line

BASE: path

so as to not have to specify the whole thing on every mapping. Each time you put a "BASE:" line in it changes the base folder.

If different mapping files map the same funny-named folder, then the last mapping file Glidos reads in wins - difficult to predict which that will be, so its best if mapping files are disjoint.
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Glidos » 2005-1-29 @ 17:00

I tested this by creating a trx folder inside Textures, and moving all the funny named folders below it (without name changes). Here's the mapping file I used.

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GLIDOS TEXTURE MAPPING

BASE: trx\

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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Gambit37 » 2005-1-29 @ 18:38

Wooty woot! Thanks very much for this -- I've just tried a quick test with my title graphics and your approach works -- very nice!

OK, here's the questions:

1) I understand that changing the BASE parameter anywhere in the file will point to a new folder. Any of these folders might contain TLNK files, which themselves have paths in them. Now clearly the paths in the TLNK files will be relative to the current base path. Currently my TLNKs start with TLNK: trx\folder\filename -- this now won't work. What is the best way for me to consistently name my TLNK paths so that I don't get all confused? ;) --- Or alternatively, would starting with a root path work? ie: TLNK: \trx\folder\filename ---- does Glidos recognise the initial \ as meaning "The textures folder"? --- that would be the simplest solution I think.

2) As long as all mapping files start with GLIDOS TEXTURE MAPPING, does this mean I can have one map file per level? EG:

TRXmap_title.txt
TRXmap_level01.txt
TRXmap_level02.txt
etc...

3) Can I put comments in the mapping file? If so, what's the syntax?
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Gambit37 » 2005-1-29 @ 18:56

I tried using a root (TLNK: \trx\etc.) and unsurprisingly it didn't work.

So I tried a relative path instead (TLNK: ..\letters\etc.) and that worked. Cool.

But I've just realised something important: the relative path in the TLNK file is relative to the current BASE *not* the current folder that the TLNK file resides in. I'm not sure this is logical -- maybe this should be changed?
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Gambit37 » 2005-1-29 @ 19:14

OK, last comment for now:

I tried it with a fully qualified path (E:\projects\trx\etc...) and it works beautifully. No more copying of folders from one partition to another for testing! Great! One tiny problem -- if you forget the trailing slash in the BASE setting, it don't work -- could you check for that and append internally if it's forgotten?
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Glidos » 2005-1-30 @ 09:34

You can have a mapping file per level as you suggest, and I would imagine that would be a very good approach, especially for people wishing to mix and match texture maps.

Anything after // in a line is thrown away - just following your suggestion.

Ah! TLINK paths! Hmmm, I hadn't thought about that.
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Gambit37 » 2005-1-30 @ 11:55

It's funny, in my test with relative paths in TLNK files, I made a mistake and only put in one level up (..\), for example to find all the letters for the title. The base was set to trx\title, and my structure looks like this:

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trx\
    \letters
    \title\
           \weirdnamedfolder1
           \weirdnamedfolder2
           \etc...


Now, using only one level up (..\letters) from wierdnamdefolder1 shouldn't have worked in terms of 'normal' relative paths -- I would need two levels up (..\..\letters). But of course, because the relative path is established using the base setting, which is currently trx\base, it works. Took me a while to realise what was going on.

I really don't know whether it's best for TLNKs to respect the BASE setting or not. There are pros and cons of each approach.

In some ways I would prefer for the content of TLNKS to be wholly independent of any external mapping file, so that a group of associated TLNKs and nested folders (as shown in my first sample on page 1) can find their graphics relative to each other.

I think maybe the ability to define some kind of ROOT variable would be useful as discussed above. What do you think?
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Glidos » 2005-1-30 @ 12:49

It is all screwed up. I implemented link files using the hack of assuming that they would appear one level of folders below "Textures". I'm now not sure what the best behaviour would be.
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Gambit37 » 2005-1-30 @ 12:58

It's not completely screwed -- they seem to respect the base path so that's a happy coincidence(?). But I agree, not sure of the best way forward.
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Glidos » 2005-1-30 @ 15:46

No it doesn't it always look one folder up from where the link file is, which is sometimes the base. Its completely screwed. :happyhappy:
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Gambit37 » 2005-1-30 @ 16:52

Ah, I see, so putting ..\ in my link files means it's actually looking two folders up? That makes sense and seems to be what happened in my test.
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Glidos » 2005-2-01 @ 18:10

I'm thinking go with your ROOT: suggestion. You can use it only once. It should be the first thing in the file (after the signature). Anything before it is ignored. BASE: statements are taken relative to ROOT: and so are LINKs.

How would that be?
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Gambit37 » 2005-2-01 @ 22:10

That sounds perfect! :happyhappy:

So to install texture packs into a folder called trx off the Textures folder, the root would be simply TRX\?

Will TLNK relative paths then be relative to the ROOT, the BASE, or their containing folder?
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Glidos » 2005-2-05 @ 11:44

Ok that's done. You can now write
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ROOT: path

Should be the first thing after the header line. Anything before is ignored. Any later lines that say ROOT: are ignored. The path is relative to the Textures folder, unless it starts with a drive letter.

You can stick occurences of
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BASE: path

anywhere you like. The path is relative to the one specified by ROOT: unless it starts with a drive letter.

The actual mappings are relative to the path specified by BASE:

The contents of link files are relative to the path specified by ROOT:

You can still use multiple mapping files, with differing ROOT: statements. Should work.

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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Gambit37 » 2005-2-05 @ 11:59

You, sir, are a genius wizard of the highest order. I will test this out later. Thank you very much! :D
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Gambit37 » 2005-2-05 @ 12:22

I couldn't wait -- have just tried it and it appears to work perfectly. This is going to make a massive difference to improving the testing time, managing the folders and deploying texture packs. I really appreciate the work that you've put in to this and promise to make the most of it by continuing to develop the texture packs.

I have a couple of days off this week so am going to try and grab some time to work on the weapons and finish off Lara. Although she was completed a while ago, she looks rather fake in places ( :) ), so needs some work...
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Glidos » 2005-2-05 @ 13:08

Hey, you make it worth the effort.
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Re: Request for better texture pack management

Postby Gambit37 » 2005-2-17 @ 14:58

Will there be an "official" release of 1.32 soon?
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