cyclone3d wrote on 2021-10-05, 18:06:

You'll have to see if your motherboard supports a TPM module. If not, then you will need to get one that already has it or that accepts an add-on one.

I just enabled it in the UEFI options. I can finally upgrade from an early Windows 11 preview full of bugs. Hooray !

All of this because WLS2 and WSLG was only available on Windows Insiders for way too long...

xcomcmdr wrote on 2021-10-05, 19:02:

cyclone3d wrote on 2021-10-05, 18:06:

You'll have to see if your motherboard supports a TPM module. If not, then you will need to get one that already has it or that accepts an add-on one.

I just enabled it in the UEFI options. I can finally upgrade from an early Windows 11 preview full of bugs. Hooray !

All of this because WLS2 and WSLG was only available on Windows Insiders for way too long...

Hah... That works as well I guess. From your other post, it kinda sounded like your board didn't have it built in.

buckeye wrote on 2021-10-05, 18:13:

Can anyone comment on gaming performance hits? Keep reading W11 slows everything down.

Noticed a couple of posts got "vaporized". What's up with that?

Well if every shit runs in own VM, what would you expect.

Windows 11 is the New Vista.

buckeye wrote on 2021-10-05, 18:13:

Can anyone comment on gaming performance hits? Keep reading W11 slows everything down.

Noticed a couple of posts got "vaporized". What's up with that?

On tweakers.net (Dutch) they did a review between 10 and 11. Mostly it was in the 2% range so no big difference.

Tried some games myself today after upgrading and didn't notice any difference.

So I installed Windows 11 on this Precision 5520 using the script since this processor isn't supported (i7-7820HQ) but Windows Update is offering me a BIOS update. Make up your mind Microsoft.
I did see some newer articles saying the processor was approved but the installer sure didn't work. Mabye the release build isn't but a newer build is?

DosFreak wrote on 2021-10-05, 20:34:

So I installed Windows 11 on this Precision 5520 using the script since this processor isn't supported (i7-7820HQ) but Windows Update is offering me a BIOS update. Make up your mind Microsoft.
I did see some newer articles saying the processor was approved but the installer sure didn't work. Mabye the release build isn't but a newer build is?

The i7-7820HQ is on the list of supported processors for Windows 11:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hard … or-requirements

Yeah previously it wasn't then MS added some more processors a couple of months later. I'm thinking the release build never got the memo.
I stopped beta testing MS OS a long time ago (except the release builds haha) so not going to bother verifying with an insider build.
I will re-verify by booting from the ISO though.

/EDIT Looks like "Trusted Execution" in the BIOS is what flagged it. Turning it on passes the processor check. Annoying.

Yoghoo wrote on 2021-10-05, 20:33:

buckeye wrote on 2021-10-05, 18:13:

Can anyone comment on gaming performance hits? Keep reading W11 slows everything down.

Noticed a couple of posts got "vaporized". What's up with that?

On tweakers.net (Dutch) they did a review between 10 and 11. Mostly it was in the 2% range so no big difference.

Tried some games myself today after upgrading and didn't notice any difference.

Oh, come on. MS have put the taskbar in the middle of the screen (yay!) and fixed very smooth animations, that's a big deal 😁

Edit: grouping of windows and being able to split a large screen in "workspaces" seems like a good idea though.

So they are finally just copying OSX by the looks.

Don't they do that mimicry thing for decades? 😕

Gnome <-> Mac OS GUI+Finder
KDE, OS/2 Warp4 <-> Windows 95+ GUI

Windows 2.x <-> OS/2 1.1 to 1.2
Windows 3.x <-> OS/2 2.x/Warp3

CDE, MOTIF <-> Windows 3.x, DESQView/X
Mac OS <-> Atari TOS/GEM, GEOS C64/128
OS/2 Warp 3's Launchpad <-> Mac OS X GUI with Dock

Windows Vista/Aero Glass <-> Mac OS X Aqua theme
KDE 3 <-> Windows XP Luna Theme
About any *nix of the 90s <-> Windows 95 theme
PC GEOS <-> see above

Windows 11 : Windows simulating Linux (Gnome) simulating macOS simulating Windows 95?

Sometime in the future, this windows 11 monstrosity will be considered a "retro OS" and folks will be installing it on their obsolete hardware in order to play ancient games. Mind boggling to think about.

Anders- wrote on 2021-10-06, 00:39:

Sometime in the future, this windows 11 monstrosity will be considered a "retro OS" and folks will be installing it on their obsolete hardware in order to play ancient games. Mind boggling to think about.

Yeah, that's quite possible. *shudder*

Whenever I read YT comments from youngsters that have nostalgic feelings for
201x, I feel totally confused.
I mean, that was just "yesterday" and these years were as boring and as gray as the current ones are.
On the other hand, I can understand why they feel like that.
If you're 17, then 5-7 years are a huge time frame.
Well, in theory, at least.

When I was ten, 5 years weren't much to me, still.
I mean, I was often joking and said "10 years ago everything was better!". 😁

Let’s be honest, anyone here will do that in 15 years or so? Feel nostalgic about Windows 10?

I am sure no one will ever do that. Win 10 is what Windows Me and Vista was for me. Completely forgettable.

I don't think installing a modern windows from today will even be possible in 10-15 years due to online services not being available anymore.

Jo22 wrote on 2021-10-06, 00:05:

Don't they do that mimicry thing for decades? 😕

Well they had the start button in the normal place since 1995. Centered icons is a straight clone of OSX.

I don't think installing a modern windows from today will even be possible in 10-15 years due to online services not being available anymore.

You can legitimately activate Windows Vista online to this day. So already almost 15 years. I see no problem activating WIndows 10 or 11 in that time period at least by phone, just like Windows XP. Not to mention various community efforts to debloat Windows 10, which can make it completely offline OS. Obviously Windows 11 will be debloated from annoying Microsoft Store, Cortana and other stuff too.

imi wrote on 2021-10-06, 01:26:

I don't think installing a modern windows from today will even be possible in 10-15 years due to online services not being available anymore.

Good thinking, the unix epoch apocalypse. 🤣

Yoghoo wrote on 2021-10-05, 20:33:

buckeye wrote on 2021-10-05, 18:13:

Can anyone comment on gaming performance hits? Keep reading W11 slows everything down.

Noticed a couple of posts got "vaporized". What's up with that?

On tweakers.net (Dutch) they did a review between 10 and 11. Mostly it was in the 2% range so no big difference.

Tried some games myself today after upgrading and didn't notice any difference.

If you had the slow down feature turned off in win 10, it stays turned off after update too. (at least for now...)

buckeye wrote on 2021-10-05, 14:22:

The stinking pile of "horse manure" in this release is for a local account install you have to upgrade to the pro version.

Already in Win10 you must have the Pro version if you want to control your PC and not have it the other way around, as Pro is the only one that allows you to fully disable automatic updates.

Seems like a natural evolution of things. 😜

Hello from Windows 11 (21H2, build ver 22000.194). Installed from the official ISO.
With a I7 6700K which should be not supported ... ?
But Windows installed OK after activating the TPM 2.0 chip.
MS is confusing.
Doubly confusing, is that I'm still on Windows Insiders (although on the release candidate build, thank God), and it still complains that I do not have the required config.