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First post, by 21603

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Having managed to finally fix my Pentium II machine and play some great old games, I'm now looking to add one more machine to the wardrobe to fill that space between the early to mid 2000's with an XP build. I have a few of the parts for it already which is why I chose to do this.

So far I have the motherboard, CPU with cooler, RAM to test, sound card, hard drives, 3.5" floppy drive.

MB: GIGABYTE 7VM400M-RZ
CPU: Athlon XP 2600+
RAM: 512MB
SC: Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music
HDD: 120GB x2

Pretty boring build from over a decade ago and I think I bought that motherboard in a rush to replace a dead one otherwise I wouldn't have gone with a Micro-ATX board. But as I said it's a boring build so I wanted to spice it up by maxing out the CPU, the RAM, and buying a really good video card from the era. I've been looking around on Ebay for video cards and narrowed it down to two, a Radeon x1950 Pro AGP, and a GeForce 7900GS. Both cards have great performance in games from the time like Doom 3, Quake 4, and F.E.A.R, but the GeForce is twice the price of the Radeon.

I also have a GeForce 7600 GS 256MB from Inno3D, but I'm not sure it works. I did have a card that I think blew a capacitor (which may be what that poo stain is), but I'm pretty sure that was an 8600 GS.

So I'd really like my build to look like this:

MB: GIGABYTE 7VM400M-RZ
CPU: Athlon XP 3200+ (Max for the MB with a 333MHz FSB)
RAM: 2GB DDR333 (Max for the MB)
VC: Radeon x1950Pro (or GeForce 7900GS)
SC: Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music
HDD: 120GB x2
DVD: Whatever I have laying around
CASE: Deepcool Wave Tower Chassis (or the Deepcool Frame mATX Case $10 cheaper minus the 3.5" ext drive bay. Probably the better option)
PSU: 500W with amps from here to eternity
OS: Windows XP

I got a little carried away looking at parts and it completely slipped my mind that I would need an older power supply, and then I found out that the Athlon XP had rather steep requirements which lowered my choices dramatically. For all of this to work in the wardrobe I would also need to get a new KVM switch with support for at least 3 devices.

Does this proposed machine seem like a good build for the era?

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Also what the hell is this? To me it looks like something leaked.

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Reply 2 of 7, by r.cade

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I've seen cheap clone machines that had to arrive intact from mail order shipping with crap on the slots like that. They put the cards in, then hot glued them in place. It left residue that attracts dust...

Reply 3 of 7, by clueless1

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I thought maybe a cap on the video card blew and leaked down (see the drips on the lower slots?)

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Reply 4 of 7, by 21603

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I've been looking around for PSU's and found an Antec True 550w on Ebay that looks like it has the amps required for an Athlon XP. I know Antec aren't the best brand (had them go BANG! in the past), but I also know having one shipped from Electromyne in Europe just isn't worth the shipping cost.

Outputs:

+3.3V 32.0A
+5V 40.0A
+12V 30.0A
-5V 0.5A
-12V 1.0A
+5VSB 2.0A

What do you guys do when building Athlon XP machines when it comes to the power supply?

Oh and that crud is from a popped cap from my old 8600 card, found it today with one popped exactly over that spot. Can't remember what I replaced that card with, but I guess that was the reason 😒

Reply 5 of 7, by melbar

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21603 wrote:

CPU: Athlon XP 3200+ (Max for the MB with a 333MHz FSB)

They (3200+ / 2.33Ghz) are really rare and hard to find, so the maximum reasonable solution would be the 3000+ with 2.16GHz.

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Reply 6 of 7, by 21603

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EDIT: Never mind that it was a stupid question that I answered while typing it.

I found a 3000+ on Ebay for cheap from China I think, odd that payment is in Euro. I also found a modern power supply that might work. It's a Corsair CX650 for $105 with 25A across the 3.3V and 5V rails and a whopping 54A on the 12V to power ATI's hungry video card.

I also found a few 3200+ chips, but they're all 400MHz FSB models. I guess they were the popular choice.

Is 25 amps enough on the 5V rail for these arse backward CPUs? Otherwise I'll have to keep hunting for an older one that isn't Antec or Besta.

AC Input Rating DC Output Rating
AC Input: 100V - 240V DC Output +3.3V +5V +12V -12V +5CXB
Current: 6.3 - 3.15A Max Load 25A 25A 54A 0.8A 3.0A
Frequency: 47Hz - 63Hz Maximum Combined Wattage 130W 648W 9.6W 15W
Total Power: 650W

I'm wondering if it's really worth the hassle to upgrade the CPU, I'd only be getting an extra 200MHz. Is it worth my sanity. 😒

Reply 7 of 7, by melbar

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Here is a link to this topic from Phil's computerlab.

It might help you, to understand how much power draw is on the 5V rail when running an athlon XP.

"Can your PSU handle Athlon or Duron Socket A processors?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efK7mw8eYiE

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