VictorB wrote:

I don't gonna overclock the Voodoo5. I don't want to destroy it ;) If I want more speed I take my I7 with GTX570 ;) […]
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I don't gonna overclock the Voodoo5. I don't want to destroy it 😉 If I want more speed I take my I7 with GTX570 😉

I will try overclock the CPU's a bit 😀

This platform is very solid and stable. The AMD boards weren't so stable. I gonna use this system on events so i need solid machines.

Its a gaming system not a real workstation. So no scsi in this setup. If i go for a dual socket build I will use SCSI 😀

I thought so because if I am right Maximum PC's year 2000 Dream machine featured it, and people who had deep wallets would go with SCSI HDD+DVD drive setups even for their gaming rigs because of the performance it offered

Yeeaahhhhh check out that cable management. That's how you do it right. looks great so far.

northernosprey02 wrote:

If you have some funds, can you add PCI UltraATA/133 or SATA150 for best HDD performance?

I have a Ultra/133 promise controller but the bottle neck is PCI32bit So UltraATA100 is more then enough speed. Sata in a retro build 😮 😎

Subhuman If I go for a workstation build I choose scsi! 😀

😁 😁

The first video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3W9DqNyt8M

Retro Unboxing Cooler Master ATC-201!!

😁 😁

VictorB wrote:

northernosprey02 wrote:

If you have some funds, can you add PCI UltraATA/133 or SATA150 for best HDD performance?

I have a Ultra/133 promise controller but the bottle neck is PCI32bit So UltraATA100 is more then enough speed. Sata in a retro build 😮 😎

Some retro enthusiast want to installing SATA on their retro rigs to get maximum HDD performance (or maybe they don't have more IDE HDD but they have more SATA HDD 🤣). But for me SATA is the optional component for >1999 rigs and new retro rigs (Pentium 4), has sense to installing SATA on your rigs.

But PCI speed is 133 MB/s, but why it's bottlenecked?

northernosprey02 wrote:

VictorB wrote:

northernosprey02 wrote:

If you have some funds, can you add PCI UltraATA/133 or SATA150 for best HDD performance?

I have a Ultra/133 promise controller but the bottle neck is PCI32bit So UltraATA100 is more then enough speed. Sata in a retro build 😮 😎

Some retro enthusiast want to installing SATA on their retro rigs to get maximum HDD performance (or maybe they don't have more IDE HDD but they have more SATA HDD 🤣). But for me SATA is the optional component for >1999 rigs and new retro rigs (Pentium 4), has sense to installing SATA on your rigs.

But PCI speed is 133 MB/s, but why it's bottlenecked?

Because with other devices and overhead eating up bandwidth on the PCI bus, you only get a max of around 60-70MB/s transfer speed at most.

Its important to make a good mix of hardware. So if you choose the right parts you don't need any kind of modern technology. My choice for my bootdrive is a single platter maxtor which is the fastest I have. The Biggest bottle neck is just the PCI bus so Sata isn't faster over the PCI bus. ATA133 or Sata150 over PCI32bit is just 60mb/s maximum. My tip for building retro system is stick to an era and build your system around that. So you don't stick a geforce3 in a pentium2 system. The Geforce3 is for pentium4 system and a Voodoo card or riva tnt1/2 is a good choice for a pentium2 system. Another point is the software don't go for new software find older versions to install. They do the same but they use less of your system! And if you want speed go for a new system instead of building a retro machine!

I installed the promise Ultra 100. And I'm pretty happy how clean it looks!

The ultimate year 2000 build is allmost done! Only the Voodoo5 need te be installed! First installing all the drivers and test the 2 soundcards and front units. 😀

Man that looks good... 😎

Don't see how a Voodoo 5 makes it into an "ultimate" 2K build when the V5 was already outdated when it was released due to delays. Wouldn't a GeForce 2 be more appropriate?

sliderider wrote:

Don't see how a Voodoo 5 makes it into an "ultimate" 2K build when the V5 was already outdated when it was released due to delays. Wouldn't a GeForce 2 be more appropriate?

A Geforce2 Ultra paired up with a V5 5500 Pci would the "Ultimate" GFX setup for 2000.

Using tie wraps to keep the cables together like that seems like a good idea... Just now I was messing around with my P3 system, when all of a sudden it started making a really loud noise, and Windows popped up a warning message telling me it would be better to use the "Safely Remove Hardware" dialog first before unplugging the hard drive. Whoops.
At first I thought the hard drive was busted... turns out the CPU fan got hungry and decided to eat an IDE cable 🤣

sliderider wrote:

Don't see how a Voodoo 5 makes it into an "ultimate" 2K build when the V5 was already outdated when it was released due to delays. Wouldn't a GeForce 2 be more appropriate?

Because I love 3DFX Voodoo Graphics! 😀 And the Voodoo5 supports more games then the GF2 Ultra. In my other simulair builds I have GF2 cards with Voodoo2 sli setups.

Hahaha nice cpu fans eating your data cables 😁

I fail to see how a V5 supports more games than a GF2 since the GF2 supports later versions of DX and OGL and the game industry was already moving away from supporting proprietary API's before the V5 was even released. If anything, it is the GF2 that will play games that the V5 can't.

sliderider wrote:

I fail to see how a V5 supports more games than a GF2 since the GF2 supports later versions of DX and OGL and the game industry was already moving away from supporting proprietary API's before the V5 was even released. If anything, it is the GF2 that will play games that the V5 can't.

I guess the discussion is somewhat moot... the point is that the V5 is simply different from modern cards in that it supports that relic which is Glide, making it more desirable to have in such a rig for some people. A Geforce is still a Geforce and most of the DX7 games you are talking about will theoretically work on modern cards as well, while for example the default DX and GL renderers for Unreal/UT sucked.

d1stortion wrote:

sliderider wrote:

I fail to see how a V5 supports more games than a GF2 since the GF2 supports later versions of DX and OGL and the game industry was already moving away from supporting proprietary API's before the V5 was even released. If anything, it is the GF2 that will play games that the V5 can't.

I guess the discussion is somewhat moot... the point is that the V5 is simply different from modern cards in that it supports that relic which is Glide, making it more desirable to have in such a rig for some people. A Geforce is still a Geforce and most of the DX7 games you are talking about will theoretically work on modern cards as well, while for example the default DX and GL renderers for Unreal/UT sucked.

Yes most games after 2000 works fine on modern systems. I just like the design and the dual gpu on the Voodoo5 cards. And it was still a high end cards in 2000.

And 3DFX hardware is so much cooler then any geforce card from that time! But enough 3dfx versus nvidia :p

There will be allways discussions about what is the better card. That shy i have multiply system so I can have all cards and options! 😁

Haha, I don't quite understand the controversy! The V5 "calling" [and it is one] isn't just about games, it's about *Glide* games. As good as Glide wrappers can be nothing is as solid a bulwark against inevitable compatibility issues than a full-bore Glide Rocket!

Well, even though I've had really bad experiences with V5s, if I had one realibale working example it's go straight into my PIII instead of the GF3 that's in there now.

The ultimate year2000 gaming build is complete! 😁

All the 3.5 and 5.25inch drive bays are filled!
I love the clean design of the Coolermaster ATC201!

Detail shot of the sound hardware

Cable management! 6x 40pin cable + floppy cable!

512mb Kingston memory and Intel Pentium3 1ghz!

pretty filled up chassis!

Very nice!

Love all the cable ties and how neat it all looks 😁

There is something really awesome about filling every drive bay isn't there?