MartinC wrote:

Kkk, booted up: http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/844/img0075r.th.jpg […]
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Kkk, booted up:

Does anyone know how to install Windows 98 on a SCSI HDD drive? I don't see a chance to load SCSI drivers when booting the Windows 98 setup CD 😜

Which SCSI adapter are you using?
Most SCSI adapters I've used (Symbios, Adaptec, Tekram etc) have DOS SCSI cd-rom drivers so just stuff these in your win98 bootdisk and edit the autoexec.bat and config.sys on it to load the drivers like you do in pure DOS

Saw you had an adaptec card, d/l drivers here http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/support/scsi/#2940

Do you have the SCSI card's BIOS enabled?

prophase_j wrote:

Do you have the SCSI card's BIOS enabled?

Enabled? The HDD boots fine just that Windows 98 Setup can't see it.

Amigaz wrote:

Which SCSI adapter are you using?
Most SCSI adapters I've used (Symbios, Adaptec, Tekram etc) have DOS SCSI cd-rom drivers so just stuff these in your win98 bootdisk and edit the autoexec.bat and config.sys on it to load the drivers like you do in pure DOS

Saw you had an adaptec card, d/l drivers here http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/support/scsi/#2940

Thanks, I'll give it a go. Do I just add the .inf file entry into autoexec.bat and config.sys?

MartinC wrote:

Amigaz wrote:

Which SCSI adapter are you using?
Most SCSI adapters I've used (Symbios, Adaptec, Tekram etc) have DOS SCSI cd-rom drivers so just stuff these in your win98 bootdisk and edit the autoexec.bat and config.sys on it to load the drivers like you do in pure DOS

Saw you had an adaptec card, d/l drivers here http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/support/scsi/#2940

Thanks, I'll give it a go. Do I just add the .inf file entry into autoexec.bat and config.sys?

Not even close, after lot's of troubleshooting & many different solutions to unrelated problems I managed to load up Windows 98 Gold, sooo, anyone can provide me with benchmark tools? Portable versions preferred

Stay tuned, more to come

I use Sandra 2002, 3Dmark 99, 2k, and 2k1 SE. Sandra is a multiple subsytem synthetic benchmark and the 3Dmark series is a for different versions of Direct X. While not portable these applications are "light", and uninstalling them would be a trivial matter. There are free versions across the web. One place you can look is Guru3D.com. I have also recently tried pcpbech for rating VESA performance and speedsys, which is a simple but rich graphical command line tool. Other members of the board have used Everest, which is similar to Sandra.

I have a "memory resource conflict" with my SCSI card & GeForce 5950.

I have never had to deal with resource management so help appreciated...

Go into your device manager and properties for said devices. In there look for the "Resources" tab. Here it should identify the conflicts. Try the configuration dropdown or manual settings. If you can get it working take some screenshots. You can also try going into the BIOS and using the "Reset ESCD" option. Another idea is looking at the AGP aperture size, with your system and card it should be set very high at all. 32 - 64 mb would be ideal.

prophase_j wrote:

Go into your device manager and properties for said devices. In there look for the "Resources" tab. Here it should identify the conflicts. Try the configuration dropdown or manual settings. If you can get it working take some screenshots. You can also try going into the BIOS and using the "Reset ESCD" option. Another idea is looking at the AGP aperture size, with your system and card it should be set very high at all. 32 - 64 mb would be ideal.

My problem is almost exactly the same as the following:
http://www.techsupportforum.com/microsoft-sup … t-problems.html

Except that my conflicts are with my SCSI controller & the ACPI BIOS occupying the necessary memory range for the GeForce video card. The video card resources cannot be manually changed, there are no alternatives. I have no "Reset ESCD" option in my motherboard BIOS.

And whether I use 768MB/512MB/256MB of system memory makes no difference.

This sucks....

Can you tell me what your AGP aperture is set to? Also, in your BIOS, what do you have "PNP OS Installed" set to? Have you installed any kind of chipset drivers for that BX?

http://www.intel.com/design/software/drivers/ … rchived_inf.htm

prophase_j wrote:

Can you tell me what your AGP aperture is set to? Also, in your BIOS, what do you have "PNP OS Installed" set to? Have you installed any kind of chipset drivers for that BX?

http://www.intel.com/design/software/drivers/ … rchived_inf.htm

The AGP aperture size disapears from the BIOS page once I start scrolling down, no idea why. It's possible it started doing this when I updated the BIOS, can't remember.

I just freash installed 98 with only 256MB system memory, 100MHz FSB, removed the V2 & no drivers installed, same problem....Maybe the graphics card doesn't support AGP 2x?

I'm going to try installing XP just to see if it's the OS, if it happens under XP I'm confident it's related to the motherboard hardware & I have big problems...

Still open to opinions...

Have you tried installing 98SE with it forced not to use ACPI?

This is the final product, a lot of changes on this project but all for the better thanks to the eBay bargains, forum input & my personal research I think we have developed my Dream Machine 😀

1================================================================
2***********************1999 Dream Machine***********************
3================================================================
4  OS:		Windows 98 Standard
5  CPU:		Pentium III Slot-1, 1GHz/256kb
6  MOTHER:	GA-6BXC Slot-1 440BX
7  RAM:		768MB ,SDRAM, PC133
8  SOUND:	AWE64, ISA
9  HDD:		SCSI 18GB 1000RPM
10  CD-ROM:	2 x UltraPLex 40Max, SCSI
11  SCSI CARD:	Adaptec 2940 40MB/s Ultra-Wide
12  DirectX:	GeForce2 Pro
13  Glide:	Creative 3DFX Voodoo2 12MB
14  Monitor:	Sony 17" CRT
15================================================================
16Thanks for everyone's input espically gerwin, prophase_j, swaaye.
17================================================================

Did your get your resource conflict sorted out?

prophase_j wrote:

Did your get your resource conflict sorted out?

No. After extensive troubleshooting I concluded that the FX series have compatibility issues with older motherboards, mine being of them.

So I tried the original GeForce2 I bought, it booted up fine, well, after a bit of playing around....if the adapter cards are not securely grounded the system has problems booting, the motherboard is also picky about system memory even though the RAM boards looked like they where well secured I had to remove & reinsert them.

Now I have benchmarked, defraged, run games with no crashes. Image quality is impressive even by todays standards, 10 years later games do look different but I'm not sure if I would say better.

Interestingly after everything was running stable I set the memory timing to CL2 which resulted in 3DMark scores >7000 using my GeForce card & a minor improvement with the V2.

Very pleased with the outcome, I even got USB support going 😀 works well oh & I also got the >256MB system memory issues which I solved.

Overall I would have to say this was a tough project, I have completely rebuilt a XBOX with upgraded CPU & RAM, software, HDD & it was easier than this thing but as I said I'm very happy

Added some bechmarks.

Interesting that although my PIII's cache is running at full CPU speed (unlike the PII that it is compared to that run at 1/2 CPU) it scored low compared.

Mhhh...I have a "use external cache" option in BIOS, might try that at OFF.

I've found that my GFFX 5950 works fine in my 440BX mobo, but the GFFX 5600 doesn't. I can't get drivers to install for the 5600. It just BSODs every time. I went through a bunch of driver versions trying to get it to work but nada.

The 5600 does work in a Super 7 board I have though, but of course the AGP on there isn't very stable. I think the only AGP 3D cards that work well on Super 7 mobos are Voodoo cards.

Yeah I didn't have the same luck Swaaye.

I'm kind of disappointed too that a lot of the games I wanted to play, the ones that actually look much better on glide instead of DirectX require a Voodoo1. Carma, Blood, I'm sure I'll run into others too.

Getting towards Quake II & Unreal engines the Geforce2 with OpenGL looks as good if not better than with Glide & a Voodoo2.

Mhhh...might end up swapping out for a Voodoo1.

Yeah that's a major bummer about your FX, I'm sure it's really frustrating. If you disable SLI, limit the texture memory(easily done with the control panel) and set some environment variables you can get pretty much any game to run on the V2.

Interesting, any Informative links?