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Reply 1040 of 2705, by yawetaG

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Here's a pic of my retro gaming rig, which is mostly original.

Gateway 2000 G6-266:
- Gateway 2000 tower case. For a case from 1998 this thing is great. Sound-proofed, easy access and easy to work on, no sharp corners. My only complaint is that it's a bit tight behind the CD-ROM drives.
- Pentium II 266 MHz, not overclocked
- 440BX chipset, Intel OEM board.
- OEM Ensoniq Soundscape AudioPCI sound card
- original Mitsumi 18 speed CD-ROM drive (starts to get tired).
- Philips DVD-ROM/CD-writer out of an Apple eMac 1GHz. Just works, despite lacking a front plate.
- Original 4 Gb harddisk, to which I added a Maxtor 40 Gb harddisk that was supposedly failing in a newer AMD Duron-based system (that was 10 years ago... 🤣 )
- 320 Mb RAM, 64 Mb + single-sided 128 Mb + half-recognized single-sided 256 Mb stick. The latter two sticks didn't work under the original BIOS revision (P08), so I updated the BIOS to version P18 (when Gateway's site still existed). It's stable. A nice and interesting side-effect of the high RAM amount is that this system can play DVDs without hardware acceleration, despite supposedly being too slow for that (PowerDVD takes 194 Mb of RAM)
- Asus Nvidia TNT2 Riva M64 AGP videocard, replacing the original Nvidia TNT AGP card.
- ISA ISDN modem that I never removed from the system.
- FDD.
- USB 250 Mb ZIP-drive.
- original Gateway speakers
- I still have the original 17" monitor (HUGE heavy beast), but it has been replaced by a Dell flat screen
- Windows 95 (USB support) updated to Windows 98 SE

I still have a Adaptec ISA AHA-1542B SCSI-2 adapter I'll probably install into this machine, since Win98SE is the last OS that still has compatible drivers (I think...).

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Reply 1041 of 2705, by nforce4max

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Diamond Viper 770 if you turn up empty handed on trying to get a proper 128 bit TNT like a Viper 550, the bandwidth difference is huge and really shows in some games.

Nice rig and I always love seeing those good old Gateway 2000s plus some them have Nice boards.

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Reply 1042 of 2705, by yawetaG

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The M64 card comes out of a disastrous PC purchase I did in 2001 (had a system built by a system builder shop recommended by friends, turned out to be a complete mess that ate hard disks at a rate of 1 every three months and BSOD'ed under load 😒 ) Its 32Mb of RAM were a great improvement over the 4Mb of the original graphics card, despite the bandwidth problem. It also helps that I mostly play older DOS games and Windows RTS games.

This Gateway 2000 has a nice board 😀

Reply 1043 of 2705, by Tetrium

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yawetaG wrote:

The M64 card comes out of a disastrous PC purchase I did in 2001 (had a system built by a system builder shop recommended by friends, turned out to be a complete mess that ate hard disks at a rate of 1 every three months and BSOD'ed under load 😒 ) Its 32Mb of RAM were a great improvement over the 4Mb of the original graphics card, despite the bandwidth problem. It also helps that I mostly play older DOS games and Windows RTS games.

This Gateway 2000 has a nice board 😀

yawetaG wrote:

Here's a pic of my retro gaming rig, which is mostly original.

Gateway 2000 G6-266:
- Asus Nvidia TNT2 Riva M64 AGP videocard, replacing the original Nvidia TNT AGP card.

Perhaps you're referring to the Viper V330, which is a Riva 128? The Viper 550 (which I had in my first system) comes with 16MB, Riva 128 I see often with 4MB.

If you replaced a Riva 128 with a M64, then I'd say it would (or at least should) definitely be an improvement, though I dunno if this improvement was really significant. I found TNT1 not all though fantastic in performance (and you can forget about 32-bit gaming on the TNT, it was usually very slow and I noticed little difference).

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Reply 1044 of 2705, by Unknown_K

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I purchased a TNT1 when they were first out and I needed an AGP (which was new) video card. The drivers were so unpolished that all games had artifacts, took them a while to get it working decently.

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Reply 1045 of 2705, by yawetaG

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I had a look at the original card, and it is a STB Velocity 128 AGP (rev. B) with 4 MB RAM and only VGA-out (never do things from memory... 😵 ). Interestingly, it has a Gateway-badged BIOS chip (version 1.6, dated Oct. 28, 1997).

Reply 1046 of 2705, by Deflektor

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Socket-7 build. Cable-managment need some extra-work, but the case is awesome - always want one of those.

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Inside i've got 128mb of pc-133 ram, isa sound blaster vibra (i know its not awe64, but its sound really good with my antel lansig 2.1 setup) s3virge+voodoo-2 (will add second sli-voodoo2 and replace s3 with matrox millenium 2 shortly). Also i hook up voodoo 2 to the second vga-input on my Sony Trinitron g200 monitor. Boom, no image degrading and everything great until you start playing something like Myth: The fallen lords, where you have to switch inputs constantly)

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I've reprogrammed standard Hi and LO lights on the case to 133 manually. It was not as hard as i thought, just basic jumpers-managment

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Reply 1047 of 2705, by Oldskoolmaniac

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nice ive been looking to have a setup like that

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Reply 1048 of 2705, by snorg

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yawetaG wrote:
Here's a pic of my retro gaming rig, which is mostly original. […]
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Here's a pic of my retro gaming rig, which is mostly original.

Gateway 2000 G6-266:
- Gateway 2000 tower case. For a case from 1998 this thing is great. Sound-proofed, easy access and easy to work on, no sharp corners. My only complaint is that it's a bit tight behind the CD-ROM drives.
- Pentium II 266 MHz, not overclocked
- 440BX chipset, Intel OEM board.
- OEM Ensoniq Soundscape AudioPCI sound card
- original Mitsumi 18 speed CD-ROM drive (starts to get tired).
- Philips DVD-ROM/CD-writer out of an Apple eMac 1GHz. Just works, despite lacking a front plate.
- Original 4 Gb harddisk, to which I added a Maxtor 40 Gb harddisk that was supposedly failing in a newer AMD Duron-based system (that was 10 years ago... 🤣 )
- 320 Mb RAM, 64 Mb + single-sided 128 Mb + half-recognized single-sided 256 Mb stick. The latter two sticks didn't work under the original BIOS revision (P08), so I updated the BIOS to version P18 (when Gateway's site still existed). It's stable. A nice and interesting side-effect of the high RAM amount is that this system can play DVDs without hardware acceleration, despite supposedly being too slow for that (PowerDVD takes 194 Mb of RAM)
- Asus Nvidia TNT2 Riva M64 AGP videocard, replacing the original Nvidia TNT AGP card.
- ISA ISDN modem that I never removed from the system.
- FDD.
- USB 250 Mb ZIP-drive.
- original Gateway speakers
- I still have the original 17" monitor (HUGE heavy beast), but it has been replaced by a Dell flat screen
- Windows 95 (USB support) updated to Windows 98 SE

I still have a Adaptec ISA AHA-1542B SCSI-2 adapter I'll probably install into this machine, since Win98SE is the last OS that still has compatible drivers (I think...).

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I had this exact model, bought new in '97. Don't even want to think how much I spent on that bastard. I'm almost sure it was over $3k. If I'd put the same amount in Apple stock I'd have my damn house paid for.

Reply 1049 of 2705, by oerk

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Deflektor wrote:

Socket-7 build. Cable-managment need some extra-work, but the case is awesome - always want one of those.

Nice! Socket 7 is just so versatile - I've got four working systems at the moment, and parts for several more... 😊

What kind of motherboard and chipset is that? What processor? Looks good.

Personally, I wouldn't replace the Virge with a Millenium - the S3 has better DOS compatibility. Unless yours is a cheap one with bad image quality, I would keep it.

Reply 1050 of 2705, by jheronimus

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oerk wrote:
Deflektor wrote:

Personally, I wouldn't replace the Virge with a Millenium - the S3 has better DOS compatibility. Unless yours is a cheap one with bad image quality, I would keep it.

I've been through a couple of S3 Virge myself, currently using a Diamond Stealth 2000 Pro. Haven't really noticed any quality difference with a Matrox.

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Reply 1051 of 2705, by RetroGamingNovice

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Here's my two that I currently got running, oldest first, showing both AIDA screencaps and empty desks.

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Newest, dc5750, XP-era.
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Leaving the laptop outta this as there's a separate thread for that, however the newest of the rigs I got that would count for retro/legacy/whatever is that dc5750, since it's based around hardware that came out in '04, which is kinda getting there.

PC hardware: Ryzen 5 4500, 32GB RAM, 1TB SN 570 Linux drive, 500GB 970 EVO Plus Windows drive, 2TB 970 EVO Plus games drive, 1TB 870 EVO extra storage drive, RX 6600 GPU, EndeavourOS/Win10 dual-boot

Reply 1053 of 2705, by CodeFuApprentice

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Hi Everyone 😀
Here's my Retro Rig:
Specs:
AMD K6-III 400Mhz
Gigabyte GA-5AX Rev 4.1 Motherboard
256MB PC133 memory.
20GB Quantum Fireball LM Plus hard disk
LG DVD Drive
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound card with a Yamaha DB50XG Daughter board.
Nvidia Geforce 2 MX AGP w/32MB
(I had a Voodoo 5 previously installed, though i've decided to use it with an Athlon XP 1800+ instead 😀
650Watt PSU
Windows 98 (Not Second Edition)

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AMD K6-3 400 | Gigabyte GA-5AX R4.1 | 256MB PC-100 | 20GB Quantum Fireball LMPlus | Windows 98 SE
*Alternating between: Geforce 2 MX AGP or 3DFX Voodoo 5 5500 AGP. *Sound Blaster AWE-32 CT2760 or Turtle Beach Santa Cruz w/ Yamaha DB50XG.

Reply 1054 of 2705, by Tiger433

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CodeFuApprentice wrote:
Hi Everyone :) Here's my Retro Rig: Specs: AMD K6-III 400Mhz Gigabyte GA-5AX Rev 4.1 Motherboard 256MB PC133 memory. 20GB Quantu […]
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Hi Everyone 😀
Here's my Retro Rig:
Specs:
AMD K6-III 400Mhz
Gigabyte GA-5AX Rev 4.1 Motherboard
256MB PC133 memory.
20GB Quantum Fireball LM Plus hard disk
LG DVD Drive
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound card with a Yamaha DB50XG Daughter board.
Nvidia Geforce 2 MX AGP w/32MB
(I had a Voodoo 5 previously installed, though i've decided to use it with an Athlon XP 1800+ instead 😀
650Watt PSU
Windows 98 (Not Second Edition)

And on screen is Heretic II menu? I ended that game years ago and was very good 😀

W7 "retro" PC: ASUS P8H77-V, Intel i3 3240, 8 GB DDR3 1333, HD6850, 2 x 500 GB HDD
Retro 98SE PC: MSI MS-6511, AMD Athlon XP 2000+, 512 MB RAM, ATI Rage 128, 80GB HDD
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Reply 1055 of 2705, by Laehdesmaeki

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Here are few of my retro computers.
I will take better pictures soon.
AT&T Globalyst310, intel dx2 66mhz, 1mb tseng et4000/w32i vlb, 16mb ram, 8gb compact flash hdd, Soundblaster 16vibra with opl3
Ast Bravo 386sx/20 4mb ram, 42 hdd
And noname case tomatoboard 4dps, AMD DX4 100mhz, 16mb ram, 1,7gb hdd, S3 trio64v+ and another vibra 16 with opl3

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Reply 1056 of 2705, by einr

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yawetaG wrote:
Here's a pic of my retro gaming rig, which is mostly original. […]
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Here's a pic of my retro gaming rig, which is mostly original.

Gateway 2000 G6-266:
- Gateway 2000 tower case. For a case from 1998 this thing is great. Sound-proofed, easy access and easy to work on, no sharp corners. My only complaint is that it's a bit tight behind the CD-ROM drives.
- Pentium II 266 MHz, not overclocked
- 440BX chipset, Intel OEM board.
- OEM Ensoniq Soundscape AudioPCI sound card
- original Mitsumi 18 speed CD-ROM drive (starts to get tired).
- Philips DVD-ROM/CD-writer out of an Apple eMac 1GHz. Just works, despite lacking a front plate.
- Original 4 Gb harddisk, to which I added a Maxtor 40 Gb harddisk that was supposedly failing in a newer AMD Duron-based system (that was 10 years ago... 🤣 )
- 320 Mb RAM, 64 Mb + single-sided 128 Mb + half-recognized single-sided 256 Mb stick. The latter two sticks didn't work under the original BIOS revision (P08), so I updated the BIOS to version P18 (when Gateway's site still existed). It's stable. A nice and interesting side-effect of the high RAM amount is that this system can play DVDs without hardware acceleration, despite supposedly being too slow for that (PowerDVD takes 194 Mb of RAM)
- Asus Nvidia TNT2 Riva M64 AGP videocard, replacing the original Nvidia TNT AGP card.
- ISA ISDN modem that I never removed from the system.
- FDD.
- USB 250 Mb ZIP-drive.
- original Gateway speakers
- I still have the original 17" monitor (HUGE heavy beast), but it has been replaced by a Dell flat screen
- Windows 95 (USB support) updated to Windows 98 SE

I still have a Adaptec ISA AHA-1542B SCSI-2 adapter I'll probably install into this machine, since Win98SE is the last OS that still has compatible drivers (I think...).

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Oh my. This is so cool to see. 😎

This is almost exactly my second computer, which I bought in '98. Wish I hadn't thrown it out!

Except mine definitely came with an STB Velocity 128 (RIVA128) 4 Mb AGP card. Hard drive was a Quantum Fireball 4.3 Gb. Original RAM was 64 Mb.

Also I'm positive the motherboard had an LX chipset. I remember the board being very picky with RAM; after a few years finding PC66 wasn't so easy and it simply wouldn't accept the PC100 RAM I bought and tried.

The 17" monitor you have is the EV700, right?

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I had a look at the original card, and it is a STB Velocity 128 AGP (rev. B) with 4 MB RAM and only VGA-out (never do things from memory... 😵 ). Interestingly, it has a Gateway-badged BIOS chip (version 1.6, dated Oct. 28, 1997).

Didn't read the entire thread before replying but yes, there you go. So the system is probably 100% identical to mine. Are you sure the chipset isn't LX?

Reply 1057 of 2705, by einr

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Here's a quick photo of my rather unusual XT clone:

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Samsung SPC-3000. The brand/model is unusual but as far as specs it's bog-standard as can be... 8088, 640K RAM, dual 360K floppy drives, 20 MB ST125 hard disk, CGA graphics. There's nothing else in it except a dual gameport card. Totally stock, runs PC DOS 3.30. I believe this was sold in 1987 so it would have been really low-end for the time.

I'm not usually into PC hardware this old but a friend of my sister's was going to throw it out about fifteen years ago so I had to save it from certain death. It works but I'm not sure what to even do with an XT, so it just sits around chilling for the most part 😀

Reply 1058 of 2705, by MMaximus

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That's a very nice looking machine you got there. I don't think it was such low-end in 1987 - it has dual floppy drives and 640k, whereas lower-end PC usually came with just one drive and 512k RAM. You could try to run CGA games on it 😀

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Reply 1059 of 2705, by einr

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Thanks! I'm happy to have it. It does have some CGA games on the hard drive (Dig Dug, among others, which is fun and seems like a decent port) and they're pretty cool but an 8088 just seems so slow to me ;I

I guess it's not the lowest of low-end, but by 1987 a "normal" PC would have been something like a 286-10 with 1 Mb of RAM, right?