Any idea why PII's were not "normal" (I.E., in a socket) processors? Why where they on their own separate card?

Because of the external cache, which is faster than on the mobo. The latest this type of processor was the first p3, at the coppermine they integrated the cache finally to the core. From this moment the slot1 became useless (but you could buy both versions).

arncht wrote:

my "98" bundle, without case. […]
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my "98" bundle, without case.

Asus P2B rev 1.10 Intel 440BX
Intel Pentium II 450 SL2WB
Toshiba PC100 SDRAM 8ns 64M x2
Diamond Viper V550 16M AGP NVIDIA Riva TNT
Diamond Monster 3D II 12M PCI 3Dfx Voodoo2
Diamond Monster Sound MX300 PCI Aureal Vortex2

Nice photos of a nice setup. Things happend fast back then, only the Voodoo II still remaning compared to my "highend" early '98 rig.

finally got around to finish my PIII blue setup 😀
The Geforce 4600 TI are rare already let alone getting a blue one was I wanted, didn't want to pay 200 for the only one on ebay currently<.<
also found a good use for that spare Aopen tower I painted last year, fitting blue colour ofcourse, still considering getting a Hercules sound card or asus XHigh-fi
Specs:
- Gigabyte GA-60XT socket 370
- Pentium III-S 1400 Mhz Tualatin (with athlon cooler)
- 2x 256 sd ram with blue heatsinks
- Geforce 4 4200 TI Club 3D
- Antec Truepower 330W
- Netgear network card
- 80 GB HD partioned 3 way for dual boot and storage.
- Sony DVD burner
- Philips DVD-rom (needed to fill the slot)
- Card reader/FDD

*cough*
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262416645060
*cough*

luckybob wrote:

*cough*
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262416645060
*cough*

thats just mean 🤣
i know, i know i should get some of those. but paying 11 a piece is to much. ill go on the look out later this year for the details 😢

I'm sure there are cheaper alternatives, I literally just chose the first blue one I could.

luckybob wrote:

I'm sure there are cheaper alternatives, I literally just chose the first blue one I could.

sadly in my country they cost €15,- a piece (need 2 so free shipping above €20,-) and ebay costs €10,-... Best option would be to get a can of spray painy and paint them blue 😎

What era is this case? It has turbo button and mhz display up to "199mhz" . Is it <1995 or 1996+?

Richo wrote:

finally got around to finish my PIII blue setup :happy: The Geforce 4600 TI are rare already let alone getting a blue one was I […]
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finally got around to finish my PIII blue setup 😀
The Geforce 4600 TI are rare already let alone getting a blue one was I wanted, didn't want to pay 200 for the only one on ebay currently<.<
also found a good use for that spare Aopen tower I painted last year, fitting blue colour ofcourse, still considering getting a Hercules sound card or asus XHigh-fi
Specs:
- Gigabyte GA-60XT socket 370
- Pentium III-S 1400 Mhz Tualatin (with athlon cooler)
- 2x 256 sd ram with blue heatsinks
- Geforce 4 4200 TI Club 3D
- Antec Truepower 330W
- Netgear network card
- 80 GB HD partioned 3 way for dual boot and storage.
- Sony DVD burner
- Philips DVD-rom (needed to fill the slot)
- Card reader/FDD

Wow such a beauty is this, with the blue cable it would be 10/10.

overdrive333 wrote:

What era is this case? It has turbo button and mhz display up to "199mhz" . Is it <1995 or 1996+?

I have two of these with Pentium 100's that were put together in 96.

I've been sandbagging off this website for a while now and finally decided to join. Here's my W98/DOS rig: Pentium MMX 200MHz, 128MB PC66, Matrox Millennium II, SB VIBRA 16 and Roland SC-55.

Biggie Z wrote:

I've been sandbagging off this website for a while now and finally decided to join. Here's my W98/DOS rig: Pentium MMX 200MHz, 128MB PC66, Matrox Millennium II, SB VIBRA 16 and Roland SC-55.

Welcome aboard! 😁

Is that a good place to store floppies? I try to always store them on places where there are no electronics in the most direct vicinity (even though I don't even know for sure if this helps in all cases).

Chances are your board only caches up to 64MB (but I suppose you're already aware of this?), unless you're using a (Super Socket 7) board which can cache more. You're perhaps running a TX board?

edit: Well, I decided to just go look it up. According to the always-right wiki your board uses a 430VX chipsetted board (unless of course somehow the original motherboard got switched with something else). How did you crap 128MB of SDRAM into it? I've understood that people who try to put a 64MB DIMM into a VX chipsetted board, they'd only "see" 16MB instead of 64MB.

I'm not a fan of Dell machines, never was really, but your case looks neat and it appears as if it is new. Nice!

How are you using your floppy drives and ZIP drive?

Tetrium wrote:

edit: Well, I decided to just go look it up. According to the always-right wiki your board uses a 430VX chipsetted board (unless of course somehow the original motherboard got switched with something else). How did you crap 128MB of SDRAM into it? I've understood that people who try to put a 64MB DIMM into a VX chipsetted board, they'd only "see" 16MB instead of 64MB.

It may be a pair of double sided 64M sticks. Maybe. I know that TX supports SS 64M SDRAMs, and while I have no experience with VX you may get away with DS 64MB modules in a it.

alvaro84 wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

edit: Well, I decided to just go look it up. According to the always-right wiki your board uses a 430VX chipsetted board (unless of course somehow the original motherboard got switched with something else). How did you crap 128MB of SDRAM into it? I've understood that people who try to put a 64MB DIMM into a VX chipsetted board, they'd only "see" 16MB instead of 64MB.

It may be a pair of double sided 64M sticks. Maybe. I know that TX supports SS 64M SDRAMs, and while I have no experience with VX you may get away with DS 64MB modules in a it.

Has anyone here ever seen 64MB SDRAM sticks with 16 (or 18) chips? I've never seen one. It was either 2x8 chips 32MB (or 1x8 16MB) PC-66 or 1x8 64MB (or 2x8 128MB) and 64MB sticks had either 8 chips or even fewer.
Or it could be some kind of weird composite module. Interested in learning how this stick fits into the socket 😵

My guess is that he's using SIMMs instead of DIMMs (or maybe his board has 4 DIMM sockets (which would be kinda awesome!)).

Here are two;

For MS Paint animations/images-

Pentium ii 400Mhz
64MB DDR RAM
2MB 3D capable iGPU
10GB HDD

Needs a hard drive.....and a screen-

233Mhz Pentium MMX
32MB RAM
1MB iGPU

😘

Tetrium wrote:

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Biggie Z wrote:

I've been sandbagging off this website for a while now and finally decided to join. Here's my W98/DOS rig: Pentium MMX 200MHz, 128MB PC66, Matrox Millennium II, SB VIBRA 16 and Roland SC-55.

Welcome aboard! 😁

Is that a good place to store floppies? I try to always store them on places where there are no electronics in the most direct vicinity (even though I don't even know for sure if this helps in all cases).

Chances are your board only caches up to 64MB (but I suppose you're already aware of this?), unless you're using a (Super Socket 7) board which can cache more. You're perhaps running a TX board?

edit: Well, I decided to just go look it up. According to the always-right wiki your board uses a 430VX chipsetted board (unless of course somehow the original motherboard got switched with something else). How did you crap 128MB of SDRAM into it? I've understood that people who try to put a 64MB DIMM into a VX chipsetted board, they'd only "see" 16MB instead of 64MB.

I'm not a fan of Dell machines, never was really, but your case looks neat and it appears as if it is new. Nice!

How are you using your floppy drives and ZIP drive?

alvaro84 wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

edit: Well, I decided to just go look it up. According to the always-right wiki your board uses a 430VX chipsetted board (unless of course somehow the original motherboard got switched with something else). How did you crap 128MB of SDRAM into it? I've understood that people who try to put a 64MB DIMM into a VX chipsetted board, they'd only "see" 16MB instead of 64MB.

It may be a pair of double sided 64M sticks. Maybe. I know that TX supports SS 64M SDRAMs, and while I have no experience with VX you may get away with DS 64MB modules in a it.

Tetrium wrote:

Has anyone here ever seen 64MB SDRAM sticks with 16 (or 18) chips? I've never seen one. It was either 2x8 chips 32MB (or 1x8 16M […]
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alvaro84 wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

edit: Well, I decided to just go look it up. According to the always-right wiki your board uses a 430VX chipsetted board (unless of course somehow the original motherboard got switched with something else). How did you crap 128MB of SDRAM into it? I've understood that people who try to put a 64MB DIMM into a VX chipsetted board, they'd only "see" 16MB instead of 64MB.

It may be a pair of double sided 64M sticks. Maybe. I know that TX supports SS 64M SDRAMs, and while I have no experience with VX you may get away with DS 64MB modules in a it.

Has anyone here ever seen 64MB SDRAM sticks with 16 (or 18) chips? I've never seen one. It was either 2x8 chips 32MB (or 1x8 16MB) PC-66 or 1x8 64MB (or 2x8 128MB) and 64MB sticks had either 8 chips or even fewer.
Or it could be some kind of weird composite module. Interested in learning how this stick fits into the socket 😵

My guess is that he's using SIMMs instead of DIMMs (or maybe his board has 4 DIMM sockets (which would be kinda awesome!)).

The board is stock, it will support 128MB of RAM (unofficially), but it's VERY picky about what will work. That's probably why a lot of people say it won't, because they tried it but they didn't use the right stuff. You have to use double sided 16 module DIMMs, and even then not all of them will work. The only ones I got to work were a set of NEC PC133U DIMMs, which were actually 256MB a piece but were recognized as 64MB a piece by both the BIOS and Windows 98. I also tried a set of Micron double sided 128MB 16M DIMMs but they were only recognized as 32MB each, so I'm not exactly sure what the parameters are for getting 128MB to be recognized. Anyways, Windows 98 runs noticeably quicker now with 128MB of RAM so I'm happy. I also looked around ebay and couldn't find any 16M 64MB SDRAM DIMMs, I'm not sure if they even exist.

I actually have a PCI-E IDE controller in my main Windows 10 PC that I use to transfer data back and forth from my main PC to the old Dell via Zip drives. I find it to be the easiest way to do so since I don't have to burn CD-RWs every time I need to move something. And since the M200s only has USB 1.0 that's out of the question. I was contemplating installing a USB PCI card but I just didn't want to hassle with USB 2.0 in Windows 98. I also have a USB floppy drive for boot disks and installing drivers etc.

overdrive333 wrote:

What era is this case? It has turbo button and mhz display up to "199mhz" . Is it <1995 or 1996+?

ca 94-96

Well,i'm done for updating "Portable retro gaming station v2"
Updates:

- Removed audigy 1 together with front bay addon
- Case side panel drilled to mount screen
- Added 6' screen,that takes power from pc psu
- Added Geforce2 MX 400 Pci for smooth gaming 😁

Some potato photoes:

here is my 486 VLB rig - targeted the late 1994. the cdrom type is a little bit newer (from 95), but the 4x drives were available (the cdu55e looks externally identical). for me this config has the biggest theoretical value - i collected it for more for one year, it has more quite rare pieces in excellent condition. the psu is a new at one with pfc.

Mainboard Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 rev 2.1 SiS 85C471
CPU Intel DX4 100 write back cache
RAM Sharp 72 pin FPM 60ns 8M x2
Video Hercules PowerDynamite 2M VLB Tseng ET4000/W32p
Soundcard Creative Sound Blaster Pro 2.0 CT1600 ISA DSP3.02, YMF262 OPL3
Soundcard Roland RAP-10 ISA
Soundcard Gravis Ultrasound 3.74 1M ISA
I/O DTK PTI-265W VLB controller Winbond W83759AF
FDD Mitsumi
HDD Western Digital Caviar 31000 1000M
ODD Sony CDU-77E 4x CD-ROM IDE
Case Baby AT
PSU FSP SPI-250G

bonus: boot noises 😁 https://photos.app.goo.gl/j6nJ7zuDSg5mIoIv1