My ideal 'Top of the line' 2000 - Athlon Thunderbird Socket A 1.1GHz, Geforce2 GTS Pro 64MB, SB Live 5.1, Windows 2000 and ME (okay ... maybe 98SE instead considering the early hatedom 😁), 256MB PC133

My ideal 'Top of the line' 1997 - Pentium II Klamath 300MHz, Riva128 4MB AGP, 3dfx Voodoo Graphics 6mb, Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold, 128MB PC100, maybe toss a Matrox M3D in there to cover the PowerVR range.

Just a little push.

98 on a 1ghz isn't a bad idea still, you can 98 on 2ghz if you'd want

Some would argue Voodoo5 would be a better choice for a 2000 system and i'd agree in retrospect now - Geforce2s didn't get taken advantage of until 2002, so if you're strictly after 'in the year tew thousaaaaaaaaaaaand' experience, voodoo it up. If you're looking for a highend monster that would 'last years', then Geforce2 (really an ideal 2000 system listed here won't feel obsolete until 2005, when game developers stopped giving a crap about the Geforce4MX's market dominance)

On a P2 with 128MB, 98SE should work well enough. I found Windows 95 to be more unstable then ME 🤣.

Your P3 1000 sounds pretty much perfect! 😉

About the 2 Celerons, the 433 is a nice one, probably you own the PPGA version?
The Celeron 700 was not so great, it runs on a 66Mhz FSB, bottlenecking that CPU into craptastic performance! You'd be better off replacing that one with a Celeron 800 or better.

I'd suggest you try doing some creative google searches when you want to identify some piece of hardware.

Should have built yourself a rambust coppermine PIII-1.13 or P4-1.4 space heater on a i820 board with bad caps. Deathstar 75GXP, Voodoo5-6000 and a Kenwood TrueX CD-ROM drive. Now that is the ultimate in speed and reliability my friend.

But we all know that rambust Willamette 1.4Ghz pwns Tualatin any day of the week ;D

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My ideal 'Top of the line' 2000 - Athlon Thunderbird Socket A 1.1GHz, Geforce2 GTS Pro 64MB, SB Live 5.1, Windows 2000 and ME (o […]
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My ideal 'Top of the line' 2000 - Athlon Thunderbird Socket A 1.1GHz, Geforce2 GTS Pro 64MB, SB Live 5.1, Windows 2000 and ME (okay ... maybe 98SE instead considering the early hatedom 😁), 256MB PC133

My ideal 'Top of the line' 1997 - Pentium II Klamath 300MHz, Riva128 4MB AGP, 3dfx Voodoo Graphics 6mb, Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold, 128MB PC100, maybe toss a Matrox M3D in there to cover the PowerVR range.

Just a little push.

98 on a 1ghz isn't a bad idea still, you can 98 on 2ghz if you'd want

Some would argue Voodoo5 would be a better choice for a 2000 system and i'd agree in retrospect now - Geforce2s didn't get taken advantage of until 2002, so if you're strictly after 'in the year tew thousaaaaaaaaaaaand' experience, voodoo it up. If you're looking for a highend monster that would 'last years', then Geforce2 (really an ideal 2000 system listed here won't feel obsolete until 2005, when game developers stopped giving a crap about the Geforce4MX's market dominance)

I'd mostly agree with you, except why bother with the GF2 GTS pro when you could drop a GF2 Ultra in there, or even a GF3 vanilla? If you're talking top-end, the GF2 Ultra was £420 for a reason, while £165 could get you a decent brand GTS. They really are twice the card.

For the Coppermine, great build! I'd suggest adding a couple Voodoo 2 12MB's in SLI

On your second system I'd recommend like a Matrox Millenium/Mystique or the like with a Voodoo 1 and a AWE32 or AWE64. I know others might suggest diff sound cards like a GUS (Gravis Ultra Sound), but the SB will cover good ground and not kill your pocket. It wouldn't be so bad to get the ram up to 128 or 256MB and find a Pentium II 400-450.

Tetrium wrote:

But we all know that rambust Willamette 1.4Ghz pwns Tualatin any day of the week ;D

I'm partial to a Wilamette system over a Tualatin any day of the week 😈 (hides for cover!)

sgt76 wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

But we all know that rambust Willamette 1.4Ghz pwns Tualatin any day of the week ;D

I'm partial to a Wilamette system over a Tualatin any day of the week 😈 (hides for cover!)

If there were Willamette boards with ISA slots, I'd be right there with you.

I've got an Abit TH7-Raid with maybe 100-200 hours on it. It replaced a less snazzy Asus that had many thousands of hours on it. I've even got 768MB of RDRAM for this beast (vs the generous 384 I had back in the day). This box was built about 6-8 months after release, and within another 6 months, the Geforce 3 came out. I got one of those too as my Geforce 256 was dying.

This awesome setup is literally sitting in a drawer. No ISA slot, and not quite as much CPU horsepower as I'd want for glide emulation of glide 3x titles. It's just begging for a slot as a direct3d box for the vintage though.

Thanks for everyone input, I deiced to put away the 233PII and go with the 433 Celeron. Mainly because of "Midtown Madness 2" 266Mhz system requirements. This 433 Celeron sits inside a Gateway 433C or GP6-433c. That system has an ATI Rage PRO 128 on board (integrated). It also has 192 RAM and 9GB HDD, by no means maxed out but. Will work well enough for me with a selected few windows 98 games I will play on it!

What's everyone's input on those Gateway systems and this one?

ibm5150pc wrote:

Gateway 433C or GP6-433c

What motherboard is in it?

Looks to be the same at E Bay Item "200477402624".

The board has E139761 marked on it, stickers say ISFJ00124428 and 4000531. No ideal really....