That Gateway case......it's beautiful.
Do a Slot A build in it.

PcBytes wrote:

That Gateway case......it's beautiful.
Do a Slot A build in it.

I'll definitely consider it. Not sure if it will occupy the Gateway case. Maybe. Have a couple IBM and some Thermaltake cases would suffice. But I'm definitely going to hunt down some more cases this week. No 21st century Dell cases, though, despite being able to obtain tons of them. Those are god-awful, and barely ATX compliant.
I have a 700MHz Athlon in my possession at the moment (wish I had a faster one, like maybe 900). The board is a strange one, a Jabil Kadoka 4000594.

My Pentium II-450 is a deal faster. Perhaps it shows 337MHz for a reason? Can it be actually running 5x66?

btw, how about entering Phil's VGA Benchmark? Phil's Ultimate VGA Benchmark Database Project

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My Pentium II-450 is a deal faster. Perhaps it shows 337MHz for a reason? Can it be actually running 5x66? https://dl.dropboxuse […]
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My Pentium II-450 is a deal faster. Perhaps it shows 337MHz for a reason? Can it be actually running 5x66?

btw, how about entering Phil's VGA Benchmark? Phil's Ultimate VGA Benchmark Database Project

Would be bizarre considering the POST claims 450. I'll toy around with the FSB/clock multiplier jumper settings again. Perhaps replace the CPU.

And yes, once I get everything together and proper, I'd be happy to contribute! Its getting late though, so I'll be doing that tomorrow.

Awesome rig! What state do you live in? Im located in Washington.

I like it, though I wonder if that motherboard can take a Katmai , if it does, it might be worth using a 600Mhz Katmai on it, which would more or less max out that Voodoo3 (Ive noticed thats what a game like Deus Ex needs to run really smoothly).

Hey, that's a very similar machine to my slot-1 rig! I even have the same mainboard (since recently). It's in need of a recap, however.

This board takes any CPU from Deschutes to Coppermine. I even tested a 1.65V Coppermine and it seems to work fine even though it's officially unsupported below rev 1.12. The insane 150MHz FSB setting is pretty cool, too!

So here's a quick rundown of what I've been doing these past few hours. I had upgraded the BIOS to Rev 1014, beta 3. This allowed for Pentium IIIs to run. I replaced the Deschutes with a Slot 1 Katmai. running at a solid 450MHz (100 x 4.5x). However, this seemed to fowl up my Windows install, so I reformatted and reinstalled. Everything seemed to run great, up until the video card drivers installation, which I saved for last. I've had so many problems getting the Voodoo3 drivers to work. they would always freeze my system after the reboot each driver install requires. So, I would go into safe mode, remove the inf files, and try again with a different set of drivers. I spent literally hours trying to get it to work. I never had these problems with Voodoos in my Socket A machines. Eventually, I got fed up and tried a different. Matrox MGA-100. Works. Crisp image output. But I don't want it in my rig. The 3D is terrible. NVIDIA TNT2 Ultra? Kickass. But I still wanted my 3DFx to work. So after a couple more attempts, the most bizarre thing occurred. The system started to turn itself on and off quickly. out of the blue. Taking a look at it, I thought it was a power issue. Replaced cord. outlet. Power Supply Unit. Nope. Changed CPU, video cards, RAM. The thing would not stay on for longer than 2 seconds now.

What the hell happened? Its almost like a poltergeist doesn't want me to finish my project. Any suggestions?

Should I wait awhile and come back to it later? Bite the bullet by putting all the guts away and starting a Slot A or Socket 370 rig? I honestly don't know what more troubleshooting I can do.

In retrospect, should've just stuck with the TNT2.

swampfox wrote:

I'll definitely consider it. Not sure if it will occupy the Gateway case. Maybe.

If you can get a ASUS K7V-RM motherboard (Micro-ATX Slot A KX133 motherboard) then definately it will work,and you also get a AGP slot.
If you can't find one,then this option for a small Slot 1/Socket 370 build is maybe good for you:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Azza-Socket-370-SLOT- … =item43ad5c7086
Don't know if it supports Tualatins,but it should since it uses the i810 chipset.

Those are my suggestions.What model is that Gateway though?

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If you can get a ASUS K7V-RM motherboard (Micro-ATX Slot A KX133 motherboard) then definately it will work,and you also get a AG […]
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If you can get a ASUS K7V-RM motherboard (Micro-ATX Slot A KX133 motherboard) then definately it will work,and you also get a AGP slot.
If you can't find one,then this option for a small Slot 1/Socket 370 build is maybe good for you:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Azza-Socket-370-SLOT- … =item43ad5c7086
Don't know if it supports Tualatins,but it should since it uses the i810 chipset.

Those are my suggestions.What model is that Gateway though?

I took out the Asus P2B. Think it might have received some sort of damage through static/shock. Grounding was all fine though. Anyway, put it in an antistatic bag and going to have someone look at it tomorrow.

On the back of the case, the model says its a Gateway MNT 700S. originally contained a Socket 423 machine, with a Willamette p4 and rambus. strangely enough, this Slot A mobo I have is from another Gateway machine.

Going to put the Voodoo 3 in the Slot A build for now. Socket 370 rig is going in a pretty Thermaltake case.

Is the Slot A motherboard in the normal microATX or ATX style?

Nice rig, hopefully you get that poltergeist figured out! I actually like that case a lot; my "extra" 3Dfx rig is in the micro-ATX version of that, with a 1.1GHz Coppermine Celeron, a Voodoo3 2000 and a Sound Blaster Live. Really easy to work in; some other OEM cases that are supposedly toolless are a pain IMO but this one works well.

Welcome to Vogons! 😁

That's a nice build you have there! It could be that the board is defective somehow. My P2B has run stable for years and should still be in working condition.
At any rate, sometimes it takes several attempts before a build is finally finished 😜

Why not ditch the tape and put back the screws but use rubber washers between the fan and the case to get rid of the noise.

nforce4max wrote:

Why not ditch the tape and put back the screws but use rubber washers between the fan and the case to get rid of the noise.

What I would do is use those green wires (can get 200m or so of wire for nearly nothing, I use it all the time 😁 )to mount the fan and then put some of that motherboard foam in between the corners to stop the vibrations. It's more work but the result might be good and silent (and cheap! 😁 ).

ODwilly wrote:

Awesome rig! What state do you live in? Im located in Washington.

Same. But the desert eastern side, not the rainy western side.

PcBytes wrote:

Is the Slot A motherboard in the normal microATX or ATX style?

Full ATX.

CapnCrunch53 wrote:

Nice rig, hopefully you get that poltergeist figured out! I actually like that case a lot; my "extra" 3Dfx rig is in the micro-ATX version of that, with a 1.1GHz Coppermine Celeron, a Voodoo3 2000 and a Sound Blaster Live. Really easy to work in; some other OEM cases that are supposedly toolless are a pain IMO but this one works well.

Thanks! I'm actually debating between a Sound Blaster Live and a recent pickup I have yet to play with, the Phillips SeismicEdge, for my Slot A build.
And yes, I do intend on getting back to this mobo. The Asus P2B is an excellent Slot 1 board. I'd hate to lose it.

nforce4max wrote:

Why not ditch the tape and put back the screws but use rubber washers between the fan and the case to get rid of the noise.

Not a bad idea at all! Don't know why that had not occurred to me already. Thanks for the tip!

Another thing I might do is not use 98lite next time and use IEradicator instead. I'm skeptical as to how much snappier the OS is with Windows 95's Explorer than the non-HTMLized 98 Explorer.
Besides, messing with all that may have contributed to my driver problems and other stability issues.

swampfox wrote:

Another thing I might do is not use 98lite next time and use IEradicator instead. I'm skeptical as to how much snappier the OS is with Windows 95's Explorer than the non-HTMLized 98 Explorer.
Besides, messing with all that may have contributed to my driver problems and other stability issues.

I always think 98lite is good for 486 systems. 🤣

O cool, I am right over the Cascade pass. Im working in Yakima over the summer