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First post, by Artex

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I thought I'd dive into some of my Socket 3-based systems for these next few "Artex's Build of the Week" iterations. A few of these have been documented in what turned out to be a massive thread, but I know everyone loves pix so here goes!

Round two of my Socket 3 round of builds...

Specs:

Case: 5-bay (external) Enlight AT Tower
Power Supply: Enlight EN-825710 250W
Motherboard: Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev. 2.0 running latest available BIOS (0402.001 BETA BIOS from 1999)
Cache Info:
16KB L1 Cache (In Write-back mode)
256KB L2 Cache
Processor: Intel 486 DX4-100 (P24C) (80486DX4100) (SK096) (&EW - Write L1 Back Cache)
Cooling: Socket 3 Cooler

Network: 3Com Etherlink III 3C509B-TPO 10MBit/s ISA

Storage:
8GB CF Card (CF->IDE Adapter) on VLB Promise Controller
GOTEK USB Floppy Emulator
Generic DVD-ROM (HL-FT-DTDVD-ROM GDR8160B) 48X

Memory:
16MB RAM (2 x 8MB FPM 60ns SIMMS)

Audio:
Creative CT1900 (Sound Blaster AWE32 Non-PNP (for the win!) with Additional Memory) ISA

Video:
TSENG ET4000/W32P - STB Lightspeed VLB with 135MHz RAMDAC (2MB)

Benchmark Results:
SpeedSys Overall Score: 42.36
DOOM: 2134 gametics in 1838 realtics
Superscape: 68.3 fps
PC Player Bench: 20.4
Quake: 969 Frames 91.8 seconds 10.6 FPS

Cache Performance:

CacheChk -d -t6
L1 (16KB) - 103.5 MB/s
L2 (256KB) - 55.7 MB/s
Main Memory Speed - 39.4 MB/s
Effective RAM Access Time (read) - 106 ns
Effective RAM Access Time (write) - 61 ns

CacheChk -d -w -t6
Main Memory Speed - 68.8 MB/s 15.2 ns/byte
Effective RAM Access Time (write) - 60ns

Onto the hardware Pr0n!

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Reply 2 of 15, by Artex

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GL1zdA wrote:

Is this DX4 sticker genuine? I've never seen pre-Pentium Intel stickers.

🤣...far from. I made a bunch of these through Photoshop for fun.

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Reply 3 of 15, by keropi

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very nice build again, add some Roland to level it up! 😁

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Reply 4 of 15, by NJRoadfan

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Since you seem to have a stockpile, find me this Enlight mini tower. 😵 I still have those case stand bracket thingies which I suspect were also made by Enlight as the Amiga 4000 towers (Commodore and Escom used an Enlight full AT case) came with them.

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Reply 7 of 15, by Artex

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bjt wrote:

Very nice. Had a DX4 myself in the 90s and it rocked for the first wave of VGA 640x480 games. Wing Commander III, Crusader, Red Alert etc.

Nice! Growing up I completely skipped the 486 generation, moving from a 386 SX 16Mhz with 2MB RAM to a Pentium 75Mhz with 16MB. I'm having a lot of fun tinkering with these systems and I'm finding that the DX4 was a very capable processor - definitely a jump from the 486 DX2-66.

I have at least 3 more builds on the horizon:

1) An Asus PVI-486SP3 Rev. 1.2 with an AMD DX4-120 WB (going into a tower case with 3-digit display)
2) An Asus PVI-486SP3 Rev. 1.2.2 with an Intel 486 DX2-66 Write-back (going into a desktop case with 2-digit display)
3) An Asus PCI-486SP3G with 83Mhz Intel Overdrive chip (going into a small tower case with no display)

Just trying to get all these parts of mine into some solid builds! These last three should have some more Roland gear too (for those watching)... 😎

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Reply 8 of 15, by vetz

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Isn't it overkill with 5 486 systems and all of them being very similar?

I would go for low end 486, high end 486, early Pentium, late Pentium in that case.

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Reply 9 of 15, by Nahkri

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Artex wrote:
bjt wrote:
I have at least 3 more builds on the horizon: […]
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I have at least 3 more builds on the horizon:

1) An Asus PVI-486SP3 Rev. 1.2 with an AMD DX4-120 WB (going into a tower case with 3-digit display)
2) An Asus PVI-486SP3 Rev. 1.2.2 with an Intel 486 DX2-66 Write-back (going into a desktop case with 2-digit display)
3) An Asus PCI-486SP3G with 83Mhz Intel Overdrive chip (going into a small tower case with no display)

Why not a build with the cyrix 5x86 120mhz ?i know it's not a pure 486 but it is the most performance processor with a 486 core.

Reply 10 of 15, by Artex

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vetz wrote:

Isn't it overkill with 5 486 systems and all of them being very similar?

I would go for low end 486, high end 486, early Pentium, late Pentium in that case.

"Overkill" is my middle name man!! Come on now..

Seriously though, I have several low end systems including two 386-based Packard Bells, and a couple of 486 SX-25 systems too. I also have P5-60 and P5-75 based systems to play with already, as well as the later Pentium w/MMX chips.

I was more interested in the faster Socket 3 processors since I really don't play any of the super-old, late 80s/early 90s games, and because that was the generation of chips I skipped over growing up.

So to recap, the Socket 3 systems I've built so far:

1) Am5x86-P75 @ 160Mhz with VLB on Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4
2) Intel 486 DX4-100 WB with VLB on Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4
3) Cyrix 5x86 120 with PCI on Biostar Biostar MB-8433UUD-A (will document here soon)

In my opinion, although each system is considered a 'fast' Socket 3-based setup, each is unique in it's own way with the processor being used at their core.

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Reply 11 of 15, by Artex

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Nahkri wrote:

Why not a build with the cyrix 5x86 120mhz ?i know it's not a pure 486 but it is the most performance processor with a 486 core.

I did.. 😀 I will be adding/documenting it soon as part of another iteration of my Weekly Builds. It's a beast of a machine! More info here.

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Reply 12 of 15, by vetz

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Artex wrote:
"Overkill" is my middle name man!! Come on now.. […]
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"Overkill" is my middle name man!! Come on now..

Seriously though, I have several low end systems including two 386-based Packard Bells, and a couple of 486 SX-25 systems too. I also have P5-60 and P5-75 based systems to play with already, as well as the later Pentium w/MMX chips.

I was more interested in the faster Socket 3 processors since I really don't play any of the super-old, late 80s/early 90s games, and because that was the generation of chips I skipped over growing up.

So to recap, the Socket 3 systems I've built so far:

1) Am5x86-P75 @ 160Mhz with VLB on Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4
2) Intel 486 DX4-100 WB with VLB on Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4
3) Cyrix 5x86 120 with PCI on Biostar Biostar MB-8433UUD-A (will document here soon)

In my opinion, although each system is considered a 'fast' Socket 3-based setup, each is unique in it's own way with the processor being used at their core.

Hehe, I see were you're coming from. I also like to build interesting unique systems (ie my Socket 4 with 3DFX and Overdrive, or my Socket 3 POD100 "rocket" with 3D Blaster VLB). I have a interesting 486 and Socket 5 system in my mind that I want to build (just waiting to get the last parts which will probably be expensive).

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Reply 13 of 15, by Artex

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vetz wrote:

3D Blaster VLB

MmmmMMmm. Want!

Is that overdrive processor of yours an 83Mhz overclocked to 100Mhz using 40Mhz instead of a 33Mhz bus? I can't get mine stable enough to run Quake in the PVI-486Sp3, but man, what a score in SpeedSys - right around 74.x! Unfortunately the board has no PCI divider....

EDIT: Seems I'm not alone:
Help me decide Pentium Overdrive 83@100mhz vs Pentium 90

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Reply 14 of 15, by vetz

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Artex wrote:
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vetz wrote:

3D Blaster VLB

MmmmMMmm. Want!

Is that overdrive processor of yours an 83Mhz overclocked to 100Mhz using 40Mhz instead of a 33Mhz bus? I can't get mine stable enough to run Quake in the PVI-486Sp3, but man, what a score in SpeedSys - right around 74.x! Unfortunately the board has no PCI divider....

EDIT: Seems I'm not alone:
Help me decide Pentium Overdrive 83@100mhz vs Pentium 90

Yes, it's overclocked with 40mhz bus. I have two POD's and only one of them lets me overclock to 100mhz. Feipoa later told me on PM that he got it working at 100mhz as well. Its just luck or not if you can overclock it.

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