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Reply 40 of 45, by Anonymous Coward

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Sorry. I got confused because I forgot in Europe the decimals and commas are reversed 😁

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V'Ger XT|Upgraded AT|Ultimate 386|Super VL/EISA 486|SMP VL/EISA Pentium

Reply 41 of 45, by mav85ale

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No problem 😀

Now I am really satisfied of performance but with more RAM I could play more games... almost all dos games of 1995-96-97 requires 8MB

Olivetti M290 / 386SX 16MHz / 4MB / 100MB HDD / TSENG ET3000 / Opti 82c931
Commodore 486DX33C / 486DX2 66MHz / 8MB / 500MB HDD / WD90c30 / Vibra16
Pentium MMX 233MHz / 64MB / 8.4GB HDD / Millennium II 4MB / 3Dfx Voodoo / Creative SoundBlaster AWE64 GOLD

Reply 42 of 45, by mav85ale

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Anonymous Coward wrote:

The Cyrix 486 chips were said to be 5-10% slower than the intel parts at the same clockspeed.

The DX/2-50 will be a little faster than the DX-33 at CPU intensive things, but fall behind at I/O intensive stuff. I remember reading the reviews in PC World and PC Magazine in early 1993, and those two CPUs were roughly equal.

I've reinstalled the 486DX 33MHz for try bios configuration

Doom result 35x1091/2050=18,62 fps..

same of Cyrix DX2 50MHz

EDIT: SpeedSys drops from about 20 to about 12 points

Olivetti M290 / 386SX 16MHz / 4MB / 100MB HDD / TSENG ET3000 / Opti 82c931
Commodore 486DX33C / 486DX2 66MHz / 8MB / 500MB HDD / WD90c30 / Vibra16
Pentium MMX 233MHz / 64MB / 8.4GB HDD / Millennium II 4MB / 3Dfx Voodoo / Creative SoundBlaster AWE64 GOLD

Reply 43 of 45, by Anonymous Coward

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Speedsys apparently isn't a very accurate tool for measuring CPU speed on older systems. The DOOM result is probably more useful for performance comparison.

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V'Ger XT|Upgraded AT|Ultimate 386|Super VL/EISA 486|SMP VL/EISA Pentium

Reply 44 of 45, by sunaiac

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Anonymous Coward wrote:

The Cyrix 486 chips were said to be 5-10% slower than the intel parts at the same clockspeed.

The DX/2-50 will be a little faster than the DX-33 at CPU intensive things, but fall behind at I/O intensive stuff. I remember reading the reviews in PC World and PC Magazine in early 1993, and those two CPUs were roughly equal.

I have numbers for Intel chips, Phil's test suite :

Speedys, 3DB, PCPB, Doom, Quake

DX-33  : 12.39   28.2	 6.6	16.11	3.9
DX-50 : 18.59 41.2 9.7 23.60 5.7
DX2-50 : 18.58 38.6 9.0 22.41 5.4
DX2-66 : 24.78 51.6 12.0 29.70 7.2

and, for completeness :

AMD DX4-100 V8T :   37.09	67.1	15.9	39.81	9.7
Intel DX4-100 WT : 41.88 71.9 19.8 42.68 10.4
POD83 WT : ??? 68.5 18.6 41.73 16.1

with ET4k/w32p on MB1433/50UIV-A.

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Reply 45 of 45, by mav85ale

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thanks for the informations

I want to try soon the phil's test suite

in the meantime I found another 4 1MB modules...! With 8MB I can install really many games / software 😀

EDIT: First two games with 8MB of ram.. Dark Forces (really playable) and Grand Prix 2 (slow with details to a minimum)

Olivetti M290 / 386SX 16MHz / 4MB / 100MB HDD / TSENG ET3000 / Opti 82c931
Commodore 486DX33C / 486DX2 66MHz / 8MB / 500MB HDD / WD90c30 / Vibra16
Pentium MMX 233MHz / 64MB / 8.4GB HDD / Millennium II 4MB / 3Dfx Voodoo / Creative SoundBlaster AWE64 GOLD