Great system! 😀

Very nice, thanks for sharing!

Looks very good (even though I'm personally not a fan of Dell cases 😜)!
You did a good job at cleaning it and it's nice to see it hasn't yellowed a lot by now 😀
Funny spot for the harddrive btw, even though I've seen it mounted in (semi-)weird places before 😜
There doesn't seem to be a lot of other mounting options in your Dell case though

You could opt to rig a small fan to the Voodoo 3, especially since you mention you overclocked it slightly.

Did you have any trouble mounting the HSF to the Tualeron? I kinda have to go creative in order to mount one without putting a lot of stress to the CPU socket tabs (had one break at one time, though that was actually a s7 Cyrix chip and not a Tully, but same cause (CPU heatspreader was apparently too high for the HSF)).

Man, that' a nice machine, I had a Dell 4100 in an identical case some years back, but with a 1ghz coppermine, 815 chipset, TNT2 and SB PCI128.

Standard Def Steve wrote:

All hooked up and ready for some big screen, plasma-powered arcade action! The game on the screen is Cyber Troopers Virtual On. It's the software/MMX version of the game, so it doesn't really make use of any of the Voodoo's features.

Keep an eye on Tuxality's PowerVR wrapper, that may eventually make this game look fabulous on modern PCs (if you own the PowerVR version). 😀

Nice setup. I really like it! I have that case too. Mine was given to me by a friend. Originally housed a celeron 400. I swapped out the board and put in a slot A 750 Athlon rig. I might go back to the Intel board though as I have tested it with a 1ghz coppermine on a slocket and it works great.

Thanks for sharing!

Tetrium wrote:

Looks very good (even though I'm personally not a fan of Dell cases :P)! You did a good job at cleaning it and it's nice to see […]
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Looks very good (even though I'm personally not a fan of Dell cases 😜)!
You did a good job at cleaning it and it's nice to see it hasn't yellowed a lot by now 😀
Funny spot for the harddrive btw, even though I've seen it mounted in (semi-)weird places before 😜
There doesn't seem to be a lot of other mounting options in your Dell case though

You could opt to rig a small fan to the Voodoo 3, especially since you mention you overclocked it slightly.

Did you have any trouble mounting the HSF to the Tualeron? I kinda have to go creative in order to mount one without putting a lot of stress to the CPU socket tabs (had one break at one time, though that was actually a s7 Cyrix chip and not a Tully, but same cause (CPU heatspreader was apparently too high for the HSF)).

I think this machine was missing some of its drive mounting hardware when I found it. I couldn't for the life of me install a floppy drive into the dedicated floppy drive bay--it just seemed to be missing some important pieces. Which is why the floppy drive is in one of the standard 3.5" external bays.

A fan for the video card could definitely be a good idea, especially if I ever get the urge to try and crack 2k in 3DMark! 🤣

I got lucky and found an adjustable heatsink bracket from an old Powerleap adapter, so HSF installation was nice and easy.

Stiletto wrote:

Keep an eye on Tuxality's PowerVR wrapper, that may eventually make this game look fabulous on modern PCs (if you own the PowerVR version). 😀

Was just looking at some YouTube vids of the PowerVR version. To me it the PowerVR version looks slightly flatter and less detailed than the software/MMX version. Maybe the video compression just makes it look that way.

petro89 wrote:

Nice setup. I really like it! I have that case too. Mine was given to me by a friend. Originally housed a celeron 400. I swapped out the board and put in a slot A 750 Athlon rig. I might go back to the Intel board though as I have tested it with a 1ghz coppermine on a slocket and it works great.

Thanks for sharing!

Nice! I've always wanted a Slot A rig.

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Time for 3DMark!

I'd use faster video, as your CPU is from 2002 already.
Is slocket Asus-133 ?

Would be interesting to see comparision with Pentium 3 1400 and Pentium 3 EB 1000.
benchmarks, at least from Phil theme
Welcome to DOSBox Benchmark theme too.

I love the name reference.

Beautifully refurbished!

Like sgt76, I've got a Dimension 4100 with an identical case. Other than the (so I've heard) proprietary PSU connector, I really like it. I got mine donated to me by a friend who wanted to get rid of it. It came with WinME, but I replaced it with Win98SE. I can't remember which graphics card it came with (I want to say TNT2 M64 or ATI Rage 128 Pro), but I put a GeForce FX5200 in along with a SB Live! and it's been bitchin fast for me too. Oh, other specs:
P3-933
512MB SDRAM
Intel Triton 430FX chipset
no ISA slots 🙁

How many Bungholiomarks does this thing pull?!?

Sweet build mate, really nice looking case too. For a dumpster find that cleaned up amazingly well! Is that hard drive mounting location standard?

dexter311 wrote:

Is that hard drive mounting location standard?

It can be considered "somewhat standard" as I've seen it mounted this way before. Many AT cases even have it mounted in a removable mounting thingy right below the PSU 😜

Tertz wrote:

I'd use faster video, as your CPU is from 2002 already.
Is slocket Asus-133 ?

I desperately want to put a V5-5500 in this machine, but damn they're expensive!
I'm sticking with 3dfx board for Glide compatibility. Plus, the V3-3000 has very fast DOS performance. It's a perfect card for this rig. When I need smokin' Direct3D performance, I can simply turn to one of my other systems. 😀
The Slotket supports 133MHz FSB CPUs, but the 440BX motherboard does not and it is not overclockable.

Would be interesting to see comparision with Pentium 3 1400 and Pentium 3 EB 1000.
benchmarks, at least from Phil theme
Welcome to DOSBox Benchmark theme too.

I've compared the Celeron-1400 with both of those CPUs, and here's what I found:

-Despite being stuck on a 100MHz bus, the Celeron is a good bit faster than the PIII 1000EB. Compute-heavy applications are usually around 25% faster, while bandwidth heavy games are around 10% faster. The extra MHz and and Tualatin pedigree seem to make up for the slower FSB.
-The Celeron is much slower than the PIII-S 1400 in most games. The III-S has more of everything: 133MHz FSB and 512KB of lower latency cache. I recently acquired a DDR board for my PIII-S, a QDI Advance 12T with the Apollo Pro266T chipset. Overclocked to 1575MHz on a 150MHz bus and paired with CL2 DDR memory, the PIII-S performs like a 2.4GHz/400FSB P4 in many games. It easily leaves the Tualeron in the dust.

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Beautifully refurbished!

Like sgt76, I've got a Dimension 4100 with an identical case. Other than the (so I've heard) proprietary PSU connector, I really like it. I got mine donated to me by a friend who wanted to get rid of it. It came with WinME, but I replaced it with Win98SE. I can't remember which graphics card it came with (I want to say TNT2 M64 or ATI Rage 128 Pro), but I put a GeForce FX5200 in along with a SB Live! and it's been bitchin fast for me too. Oh, other specs:
P3-933
512MB SDRAM
Intel Triton 430FX chipset
no ISA slots 🙁

Yeah, the proprietary PSU wiring really is a bummer. The power supply itself seems to be of decent quality though. I ran a Ti4200 in this machine a few years ago with no problem.

dexter311 wrote:

How many Bungholiomarks does this thing pull?!?

Sweet build mate, really nice looking case too. For a dumpster find that cleaned up amazingly well! Is that hard drive mounting location standard?

Seems to be. That's where the hard drive was when I found it, and it does click right into place.

Could you please benchmark 3DMark99 and 2000?

I've noticed that in the 3DMark2001 image (under settings) it says: "D3D Hardware T&L". What kind of drivers you have to give you that on a Voodoo3 3000 AGP ?

Standard Def Steve wrote:

Plus, the V3-3000 has very fast DOS performance.

In benchmarks. I doubt there are DOS games wich get practical benefit on Voodoo compared to most AGP cards on P3.

It's a perfect card for this rig. When I need smokin' Direct3D performance, I can simply turn to one of my other systems. 😀

So it's specialized Windows Glide system. Then yes - Voodoo5 is your choice and +$100-150.
For general case Geforce2-4 would be ok, as there were not so many Glide-only games for Windows.

Despite being stuck on a 100MHz bus, the Celeron is a good bit faster than the PIII 1000EB. Compute-heavy applications are usually around 25% faster, while bandwidth heavy games are around 10% faster.

The fps difference <15% is hard to notice. The good thing - you don't overclock AGP to get close performance. Also your Voodoo3 may to be narrow place in hardware 3D, and with faster video you may get that noticable 25%, possibly.

It easily leaves the Tualeron in the dust

concrete numbers are interesting on same clock 1400

Tertz wrote:

concrete numbers are interesting on same clock 1400

I'd be interested in this as well.

I did a roughly similar benchmark with a s370 Coppermine (133FSB) and a Celeron 800 some years ago and found the Celeron was performing roughly equal to a Pentium 3 600 (a bit slower than that actually)

PhilsComputerLab wrote:

Could you please benchmark 3DMark99 and 2000?

I think it's limited by V-Sync, especially on game 1. It was just pegged at 75fps the entire time. I'm not sure why it picked 75Hz, because this monitor can do something like 120Hz at 800x600. 🤣

vladstamate wrote:

I've noticed that in the 3DMark2001 image (under settings) it says: "D3D Hardware T&L". What kind of drivers you have to give you that on a Voodoo3 3000 AGP ?

I'm using an AmigaMerlin driver, some of which report hardware T&L for whatever reason. It's still using software to handle T&L calculations; the graphics card simply lacks the hardware features necessary to do T&L on its own.

Tertz wrote:

In benchmarks. I doubt there are DOS games wich get practical benefit on Voodoo compared to most AGP cards on P3.

I've noticed that some DOS games do not feel completely smooth with certain (mostly newer) graphics cards. But with the V3, it feels like I'm playing the games on my DX4 again; it just has that perfect 70Hz feel with absolutely no stutter.

Tertz wrote:

concrete numbers are interesting on same clock 1400

I'll see what I can do. 😀

Nice, thank you!

Beats a V2 SLI machine I recently built with a P3 1 GHz 133 MHz FSB CPU.

V3 does have V-sync enabled by default. There is an official overclock tool you need to run, it will add options to the driver.