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My Retro build

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First post, by nanospark

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I have a few retro systems that I built and revived. Here is one of them:

Case: Corsair 100R Silent Edition
Motherboard: Super P6DLS w/ Intel 440LX Chipset and dual CPU support
CPU: 1 x Pentium II 400MHz @ 333MHz/82.8MHz FSB (Thank you oeuvre for the CPU! Much appreciated! 😀 )
RAM: 320MB SDRAM PC100 (downgraded due to max speed of the PC133 RAM not being utilized)
HDD: Western Digital Caviar 40GB ATA100 (WDC WD400LB-00DMA0)
Optical: LG IDE DVD-RAM (HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GH22LP21)
Video Card: nVidia TNT2 M64 32MB AGP (Asus AGP-V3800M/32M)
Sound Card: ESS AudioDrive ES1868

Additional Hardware:
3.5" 1.44MB Floppy Drive
PCI 4-port USB 2.0 card
PCI 10Mbps NIC (edited)

Here are some pictures:

Front Panel

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The internals...

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(Cable management could be better, but at least airflow is still good)
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My custom boot menu to meet my DOS and Windows gaming needs...

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Let me know what you guys think.
Note1: Please no comments on running a single CPU on a dual CPU board without a terminator card.
Note2: Please no comments on running a CPU faster than my chipset can handle.

Last edited by nanospark on 2016-10-21, 07:09. Edited 5 times in total.

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Reply 2 of 39, by nanospark

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Thank you! Sometime I'll post my other builds.

Main PC: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate|i5 4690K|32GB DDR3L-1600|EVGA GT 730 1GB DDR3|Sound Blaster Z|Inland Professional 120GB SATA III SSD, 2 x 1TB WD Blue WD10EZEX & 1 x 1TB WD Black WD1003FZEX|TSST DVD-RW|Win10 Pro x64

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Reply 3 of 39, by chinny22

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Old hardware in a nice case with plenty of cooling, gotta love it!

bit different as well, LX based P2 rather then a BX based P3. Don't know what Win9x games your playing but that's 1 sweet late DOS gaming PC

Reply 4 of 39, by Brickpad

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I love the 100R and 200R Corsair Carbide cases! I have the 200R for my i5 build, and sold my 100R case not too long ago. Is yours the silent edition? These cases are definitely a good alternative to older beige boxes, and newer cases with absurd geometric shapes.

Reply 5 of 39, by nanospark

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Brickpad wrote:

I love the 100R and 200R Corsair Carbide cases! I have the 200R for my i5 build, and sold my 100R case not too long ago. Is yours the silent edition? These cases are definitely a good alternative to older beige boxes, and newer cases with absurd geometric shapes.

Yes, it is the silent edition. I kinda feel bad for wasting the front panel USB 3.0 ports, but I still like it. It barely fits the motherboard though. I had to put some electrical tape on the case to keep the back edge of the board from shorting out on the case. Also, because of that, I'm limited to using short length optical drives, which for me isn't a problem.

Main PC: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate|i5 4690K|32GB DDR3L-1600|EVGA GT 730 1GB DDR3|Sound Blaster Z|Inland Professional 120GB SATA III SSD, 2 x 1TB WD Blue WD10EZEX & 1 x 1TB WD Black WD1003FZEX|TSST DVD-RW|Win10 Pro x64

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Reply 7 of 39, by nanospark

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wim wrote:

Nice build 😀 love the case with the labeling 😁
Got almost the same hardware, only not build yet, but i got an P2 350mhz.
Maybe you will look for an voodoo2?

What motherboard do you have and what's your graphics card?
Also, a Voodoo2? I was thinking more along the lines of an ATi RADEON 9200 128MB AGP card. A little overkill, I know...but it's not like I'm putting a nVidia GeForce 6800 in it or something like that.

Main PC: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate|i5 4690K|32GB DDR3L-1600|EVGA GT 730 1GB DDR3|Sound Blaster Z|Inland Professional 120GB SATA III SSD, 2 x 1TB WD Blue WD10EZEX & 1 x 1TB WD Black WD1003FZEX|TSST DVD-RW|Win10 Pro x64

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Reply 8 of 39, by wim

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nanospark wrote:
wim wrote:

Nice build 😀 love the case with the labeling 😁
Got almost the same hardware, only not build yet, but i got an P2 350mhz.
Maybe you will look for an voodoo2?

What motherboard do you have and what's your graphics card?
Also, a Voodoo2? I was thinking more along the lines of an ATi RADEON 9200 128MB AGP card. A little overkill, I know...but it's not like I'm putting a nVidia GeForce 6800 in it or something like that.

Mobo Abit AB-BH6 and an Asus P3B-F.
CPU pii 350mhz
256mb ram
I got also an TNT2 32mb, what is more than enough for my needs and the games i want to play when i done building it.
But in your case an 9200 agp will be a litle overkill 😉 what about an gf2 mx or gf2 gts/ti ?
I wish i had an voodoo2 (SLI?) next to it for the glide games, because my voodoo5 5500 is little overkill for 1995-1999 games 😀

Reply 9 of 39, by nanospark

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Well...I feel kinda stupid. While I was looking through my hardware, I found that I didn't have my nVidia TNT2 card in this machine. Instead, I had a nVidia Vanta LT from an old Compaq Presario 5000 in there. After researching and comparing the specs between the two cards, I found the TNT2 to be the better card and installed that. I'm still keeping the possibility of upgrading to an ATi RADEON 9200 128MB AGP in mind.

Another thing in my mind to upgrade is the sound card. I'm still thinking of finding a Sound Blaster AWE32 unless someone has a card they want to suggest to me. The only thing is that it must be pure MS-DOS compatible with Adlib support (I can't get enough of Commander Keen 4's music 😜).

Main PC: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate|i5 4690K|32GB DDR3L-1600|EVGA GT 730 1GB DDR3|Sound Blaster Z|Inland Professional 120GB SATA III SSD, 2 x 1TB WD Blue WD10EZEX & 1 x 1TB WD Black WD1003FZEX|TSST DVD-RW|Win10 Pro x64

Too many retros to list!

Reply 10 of 39, by nanospark

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chinny22 wrote:

Old hardware in a nice case with plenty of cooling, gotta love it!

bit different as well, LX based P2 rather then a BX based P3. Don't know what Win9x games your playing but that's 1 sweet late DOS gaming PC

This board was given to me by someone that was parting out a case to use and was just going to throw it away. It came with 64MB SDRAM (speed unknown) and the PII 266 CPU. I also snagged the 5.25" floppy drive that he pulled out of that case too. That sits in my NEC PowerMate VP75 Pentium computer, which I'll probably showcase sometime in the future.

Main PC: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate|i5 4690K|32GB DDR3L-1600|EVGA GT 730 1GB DDR3|Sound Blaster Z|Inland Professional 120GB SATA III SSD, 2 x 1TB WD Blue WD10EZEX & 1 x 1TB WD Black WD1003FZEX|TSST DVD-RW|Win10 Pro x64

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Reply 11 of 39, by nanospark

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I've run into an interesting (but not system breaking) problem regarding the optical drive...I can't boot from it. I can boot from every other optical drive I put in here. The drive works in MS-DOS and Windows though. Could it be that the drive is too new or the fact that it's a DVD-RAM drive?

Main PC: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate|i5 4690K|32GB DDR3L-1600|EVGA GT 730 1GB DDR3|Sound Blaster Z|Inland Professional 120GB SATA III SSD, 2 x 1TB WD Blue WD10EZEX & 1 x 1TB WD Black WD1003FZEX|TSST DVD-RW|Win10 Pro x64

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Reply 12 of 39, by kanecvr

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Nice build. I have issues with the "Ultimate win98 machine" tough. For me to label a machine as such, it needs to be the fastest supported configuration that will run windows 98 and windows 9x games - something along the lines of a 3.8 Ghz pentim 4 / Athlon 64 FX with a geforce 6800 or radeon x850xt. I'd call that ultimate because it should allow all games (that support these features) to run at 1600x1200 with AA enabled and maybe some forced AF.

You do have a nice well balanced build tough.

Reply 13 of 39, by nanospark

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kanecvr wrote:

Nice build. I have issues with the "Ultimate win98 machine" tough. For me to label a machine as such, it needs to be the fastest supported configuration that will run windows 98 and windows 9x games - something along the lines of a 3.8 Ghz pentim 4 / Athlon 64 FX with a geforce 6800 or radeon x850xt. I'd call that ultimate because it should allow all games (that support these features) to run at 1600x1200 with AA enabled and maybe some forced AF.

You do have a nice well balanced build tough.

The "Ultimate Windows 98 Machine" label is more of a joke between a friend and I. He, on the other hand, has a Core 2 Quad and a GeForce 6800 GT in his former Win98 build. He's switching to a Socket 939 Athlon 64 for his revised build.

Main PC: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate|i5 4690K|32GB DDR3L-1600|EVGA GT 730 1GB DDR3|Sound Blaster Z|Inland Professional 120GB SATA III SSD, 2 x 1TB WD Blue WD10EZEX & 1 x 1TB WD Black WD1003FZEX|TSST DVD-RW|Win10 Pro x64

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Reply 15 of 39, by RogueTrip2012

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266MHz and 320MB of ram for it is crazy overkill. I remember having like 64~96MB back in the day with my s370 Celeron 366MHz @ 550MHz. I know everyone runs overkill on old rigs though.

I really like that Corsair 100R case. I use a Corsair 230T Orange case for my main Core I7 computer.

> W98SE . P3 1.4S . 512MB . Q.FX3K . SB Live! . 64GB SSD
>WXP/W8.1 . AMD 960T . 8GB . GTX285 . SB X-Fi . 128GB SSD
> Win XI . i7 12700k . 32GB . GTX1070TI . 512GB NVME

Reply 17 of 39, by nanospark

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luckybob wrote:
only one cpu in a 2 cpu motherboard? […]
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only one cpu in a 2 cpu motherboard?

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🤣 My board, when it was given to me, only came with 1 CPU and clip. If I wanted to secure another CPU to this board, I would have to get another clip. Would Windows 98 SE even support 2 CPUs?

Main PC: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate|i5 4690K|32GB DDR3L-1600|EVGA GT 730 1GB DDR3|Sound Blaster Z|Inland Professional 120GB SATA III SSD, 2 x 1TB WD Blue WD10EZEX & 1 x 1TB WD Black WD1003FZEX|TSST DVD-RW|Win10 Pro x64

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Reply 18 of 39, by luckybob

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No, but that isnt the point.

Also, if you decide to continue the heretic life, at least put a terminator in the 2nd slot.

But seriously, it looks awesome.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 19 of 39, by nanospark

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*edited out*

Main PC: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate|i5 4690K|32GB DDR3L-1600|EVGA GT 730 1GB DDR3|Sound Blaster Z|Inland Professional 120GB SATA III SSD, 2 x 1TB WD Blue WD10EZEX & 1 x 1TB WD Black WD1003FZEX|TSST DVD-RW|Win10 Pro x64

Too many retros to list!