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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-10 @ 14:00

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Jade Falcon wrote:Well i got bad news. The ocz pcie ssd I got was a dud. At frist it was working but things started to get wonky. Now only one of the two ssd's on the card works.

Well that sucks.

But to my original plan of just useimg the raptors.


Damn, was going so smoothly too :(

Oh still, still great temps and a kickass Vista system! :cool:

Well the pcie ssd was kind of a last minute addition. I wanted 8 raptors to begin with. I'll need to find a rear hdd cage for the case to use 8 of them, that or make one.


Also with both 6900's under a load the cpu goes from low 30's to low 40s under a load. the 6990s are rather hot cards. I think I'll get a second fan for the rear rad. Also I'll need to find a lower profile vga to Dvi thingy. The case is a bit too long for my desk and the DVI to VGA adapter is far too long and the case sticks out to far.


EDIT:
On a side note, the sound card I got for the system is firckin amazing. Its a Prodigy HD2 Advance witch is a via envy card. Now I had a lot of high end sound cards and DAC's. but this thing not only takes the cakes it bakes it and eats it too.

Link to card http://audiotrack.co.kr/en/internal/231
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-10 @ 23:04

YAAA! I'm posting from the system! well from a live cd :dead:
still waiting on the sata power cables.

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even under *inux the sound card rocks.
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-11 @ 01:42

This is just insane. No OC and when I put the system under a load all at once my lights in the house flicker. :lol:
I'm just doing some light web stuff and the room my pc is in is over 90f with the door shut. I don't even have the hdd's plugged in.
And I thought my system with the 285 and dual 5080 xeon's was bad.
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-12 @ 01:17

Update:
I forgot how tricky dfi 775 boards can be. The default voltages were a tick to low for the system to run stable.
And its not like just cpu, ram and NB voltages. Dfi boards let you set everything.

I also have the rest of the parts needed to complete the system ordered.

I'll be draining the treated water and flushing the system tonight. the last of the nickel should be gone by now given the chems I put in the loop. I'll be able to put in distilled water with some anti microbe.
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-15 @ 00:27

Pro tip. Plug your sata cables in before you insall two water cooled video cards.
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-15 @ 00:54

All I have let to do is to get the sata power cables.

There is still alot of small things ill do, like change cable ends to uv ends.

The photo dose it little justice. This system look amazing.
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-15 @ 20:36

Some updates.

I find out what was locking the system up. the chipset was overheating. I now have a 40mm fan on the x38 chip set. a qx9650 and 8gb of 1066ram is alot for a x38 chipset.

I also put a second fan on the rear 120mm rad and 2 40mm fans between the 6990's with should help cool the SB and back side of the second 6990.
I should get the sata power cable on Monday.
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-15 @ 23:51

I started to OC the system today.

i realy was not trying or anything. but i hit 4.25ghz stable really fast. I'm hoping to hit 4.6ghz stable, but saidly the ram did not want to go over 1066mhz.
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby agent_x007 » 2017-10-16 @ 00:06

I did 4,28GHz on QX9770 using Air cooler (9.5 x 450MHz) :)

You will need more volts on X38 chipset to get stable 8GB 1066MHz+ (if it's possible).
With possible VTT (FSB Termination) increase as well.

Unlocked multiplier works ?
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-16 @ 00:47

agent_x007 wrote:I did 4,28GHz on QX9770 using Air cooler (9.5 x 450MHz) :)

You will need more volts on X38 chipset to get stable 8GB 1066MHz+ (if it's possible).
With possible VTT (FSB Termination) increase as well.

Unlocked multiplier works ?

yes unlocked multi works. I have the cpu at 10X425 and the ram is at 1065mhz
well its the ram. I tryed one stick and it just did not want to do anything over 1066 even 1075mhg will not work. uping the VTT and NB volts did not help. setting back the timming did not help nore did setting the ram volts to 2.2v (2.1v stock). I have a stick of 1200mhz ram too and it ran at 1200mhz fine in the system.
Its just not the best ram.

I'm hopeing the board's vrm can take the qx9650 at 4.6ghz. but I may just have to pick up a qx9770, I know I'll find a x48 DFI DK board some day and If I did I want to use a qx9770 with it.

I also thought about a 80mm rad up by the psu. but I think Id be better off with the 92mm fan that up there.
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-17 @ 01:24

So I did my first bench on the system :happy:
I ran HD tune wile installing some apps and downloading/installing some drivers.

Who needs an ssd when you have 6 drives in raid 0 ?
I'll re run the test once I get the system done.
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-17 @ 06:18

ready for some madness?
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby voodoo5_6k » 2017-10-17 @ 07:50

Jade Falcon wrote:Who needs an ssd when you have 6 drives in raid 0 ?

Well, I hope you are doing backups? Since you now have no redundancy at all and at least seven (!) single points of failure (six drives and one controller/driver) you could loose a lot of time when only one of these fails and then inevitably everything goes to hell on that array ;-)

Data loss is one of my biggest fears in regards to computing. And then factor in all the time you had invested setting up the system and installing all games etc. I can't even stand the risk of losing an individual drive (although I take it most of the time).

In my opinion, RAID 0 should just be called AID, there is no redundancy.

By the way, a very nice looking system (although I never was a fan of water cooling), very cool :-) I thought about a QX CPU myself for my socket 775 retro system (Retro 4), but went with the Xeon X5470. It has the highest multiplier of all the socket 775/771 CPUs and so you don't even have to overclock the PSB to get it to 4GHz, you just need to use a motherboard supporting 1600MHz PSB. And this can usually be done on air cooling (large cooler) and stock voltage. Even on stock clock rate it is already faster than the QX9770/QX9775.
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-17 @ 12:06

Honestly I don't have much anything to lose. Im only going to have games on this system. I'll make a base system image and maybe use a flash drive to backup save files, but the only thing I don't want to lose is the time it takes to setup the system again.
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-17 @ 23:24

a full 5.9 WEI score with everything stock :smug:

Not that it means anything.
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-18 @ 13:55

OK, So I have my OS install just about down. I'll have to get a usb hdd or tape drive or something to image the system after that.

I did a cpu burn and furmark run at the same time, all stock the cpu hits mid upper 30's and the 6990 hit upper 60s. Not bad.

Also the stock VRM and NB heatsink will not cut it, but since I bolt modded the suckers I'd have to take the system apart to replace them.
This is not a supersize, the boards heatsink setup was meant for air cooling and I water cooled the system. I'm going to remove the DFI Lanparty plate on the NB heat sink, this will allow more air flow from the fan I put on it. With the pipe it should help cool the VRM's too.
The chipset running about mid 50s and the VRM's are in the upper 60s low 70's. Once I really get into overclocking it will get bad.

I'm also going to get 80mm fan to put up top in the case its not much, but it will help. I'll also replace the two front 500rpm fans with 800 rpm fans.
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-19 @ 02:15

OK, So I now know for a fact the heat is what been crashing the system after longer use.
The VRM's are triggering a shut down. That's a simple fix. I'll put fans on them.

I found this out by running prime 95 wile logging system temps, the mosfets hit 75c ( the systems shut down temp) the high heat buzzer went off. Even with a bolt mod the VRM's run hot. That is what happens when you have 4 phases powering a 130w cpu whit a good OC
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby agent_x007 » 2017-10-19 @ 05:50

I own P5B ("vannila") with only three phases (without heatsinks), and I oc'ed Pentium Extreme Edition 965 to 4,5GHz on it :)
I think it's not number of phases, but VRM area that's the problem.
Too much heat is generated in one spot and simple heatsinks can't handle that without proper airflow.
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-19 @ 13:42

Indeed you are right.
get 8 mosfets crammed in a small spot and things will get hot once you start to push them without good air flow.

Looks like CCC does not like my motherboard ether, does not show the crossfire options. This is known to happen with a some x38/x48 boards, the abit IX48 had a bios patch to fix CF with the 4890 and 5xxx cards.

CCC will not start with older drivers like 11.8-12.x. I'll need to fix this. No point in having dual 6990's if I can't CF them. I may as well sell one to recoup funs if I can't get both to work.
Maybe I'll just byte the bullet and go with a pair of 1gb 4890's or 4870x2. with a 1600x1200 res I'd like to have a 2gb card, but I much rather have a CF setup, the only game I'll ever play that truly needs 2gb is fallout3. But having that extra bit of vram would be nice. More then anything I got the 6990's as they were a grate deal and 4 gpu's sounded like a lot of fun at 150$ with the blocks.



EDIT:
OK I'm going to sell the 6900's and get a set of 4890's. The 4890 will work a lot better with the system and are far more era correct. Not only that back less heat in the loop, so I will not need 800rpm fans on the front rad.
I'll move the two 40mm fans I put in between the 6990's on the VRM heatsinks.
So, now were do I list the two 6990's?
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Re: Project perfection. Vista era system, because why not.

Postby Jade Falcon » 2017-10-19 @ 19:51

Well now I feel stupid. All this time i been trying to find out why the system been running hoky, why ccc would not open and why ccc did not show cf options.
Yeah I never checked if the second 6990 worked. :dead: the second card is dead

Well....
yeah i feal dumb right now. Im off to ebay to find 2 4890s and water blocks, wish me luck
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