wow that's almost identical to what I had 10 years ago! Nice machine.

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wow that's almost identical to what I had 10 years ago! Nice machine.

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Thanks! I’ve been looking for a while but ive forgotton so much about win 98 and that era of PC’s, ive done a little research and ive found its weakest link is probably the graphics card.

Ive also seen that someone made a service pack for win 98 but I think if its all working ok ill just leave well alone. Ive no intension of connecting it to the internet/network, it will solely be used for old games.

If anyone could recommend and decent scrolling type platform games and/or flight games for this pc that would be great?

WiIth that 10T you should use a Tualatin and definitely a faster FX900 or Ati 9700/9800.

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Hi

Thanks! I’ve been looking for a while but ive forgotton so much about win 98 and that era of PC’s, ive done a little research and ive found its weakest link is probably the graphics card.

Ive also seen that someone made a service pack for win 98 but I think if its all working ok ill just leave well alone. Ive no intension of connecting it to the internet/network, it will solely be used for old games.

If anyone could recommend and decent scrolling type platform games and/or flight games for this pc that would be great?

The fx5200 is an ok card for a retro Piii system if its a ultra or 128bit vram card.
64bit ones were slow. Some do say a few games have odd ball problems with them, but I never had any problems with them.

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The fx5200 is an ok card for a retro Piii system if its a ultra or 128bit vram card.
64bit ones were slow. Some do say a few games have odd ball problems with them, but I never had any problems with them.

I benched a 64-bit vs 128-bit FX5200 and the difference wasn't that bad as long as you kept it at 1024x768 or lower. I think it's still more than enough for a Win98 P3 system for games from 2001 and earlier.

3dmark 2001 1024x768x32bpp on a P3-933
64-bit: 4208
128-bit: 4885

Quake2 1024x768x16bpp P3-933
64-bit: 122.3
128-bit: 195.7

Quake2 1024x768x32bpp P3-933
64-bit: 85.7
128-bit: 156.3

In lower resolutions the difference was much less, especially in 16bpp, but in almost all games, the framerates were >60, which is all that really matters.

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Thanks for all the info guys! Ill probably stick with it as it is and see how it copes! My 8 yr old is loving the old games atm 😀

remember an FX 5200 64bit is about the same prefoamnce as an MX420/MX 400 as the NV34 was a rather weak GPU, with 128bit it was about MX460/Gf 3/Radeon 8500LE/Radeon 9000 Pro prefoamnce.

For me DOS was the era of platformers, but should still work in your PC from within windows, may have to update to a SBlive for dos sound within windows? maybe not?
Command Keen series
Crystal Caves
Duke Nukem 1 but moreso 2
Jill of the Jungle
Jazz Jack Rabbit...complete with Christmas levels for this time of year 😀
Halloween Harry/Alien Carnage
Abuse

and no doubt others I've forgotten

And for a bit of education while playing

Word/Maths Rescue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyX7KR4lDJA

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For me DOS was the era of platformers, but should still work in your PC from within windows, may have to update to a SBlive for dos sound within windows? maybe not?
Command Keen series
Crystal Caves
Duke Nukem 1 but moreso 2
Jill of the Jungle
Jazz Jack Rabbit...complete with Christmas levels for this time of year 😀
Halloween Harry/Alien Carnage
Abuse

and no doubt others I've forgotten

And for a bit of education while playing

Word/Maths Rescue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyX7KR4lDJA

Brilliant thanks for all those, some good looking games there!!

The word/maths one is a great idea

Cheers

Your motherboard seems to have an ISA slot. I would drop an AWE 64 soundcard in there for compatibility with most of the older DOS platform games.

Thanks, ill look into it