Pentium MMX 166 - Retro Rebuild

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Pentium MMX 166 - Retro Rebuild

Postby Morc » 2018-3-16 @ 21:08

Components:
Mobo: LuckyStar 5I-TX1 rev 2.0 with original bios
CPU: Pentium MMX @ 166MHz
RAM: 32MB SIMM RAM (planning to upgrade to 128MB)
Video Card: Rendition Verite 2200
PSU: EVGA 450 B3 Modular Power Supply
Network Card: TP-LINK PCI Network Card (RTL8139D chipset)
HDD: SD card to IDE adapter
CD-Drive: BenQ CD,DVD Drive
Floppy Drive: Generic Floppy Drive
Mouse: Genius NetScroll+ Serial Mouse
Keyboard 6Pin DIN to PS/2, PS/2 to USB and then one random keyboard.
Homebrewed cable from Molex to Pentium CPU cooler as i don't have original one.

OS: Windows 98 SE

Old HW:
HDD: Western Digital 2GB IDE
USB PCI Card: Generic USB 2.0 NEC USB PCI Card
Video Card: Ali 3147V(even though it says S3 Trio 64V+ right under chip)
PSU: Allied 350W ATX PSU
HDD: ExcelStor Technology J880 80GB IDE

Tested operating systems:
-Windows 3.1 - tested right after first build - March 2018
-Windows 95 - has some drivers + needs drivers for video, ethernet and chipset
-Windows 98 SE - has some drivers + needs drivers for video and ethernet
-Windows ME - has drivers + needs driver only for video card
-Windows 2000 - with SP4, has some drivers + needs driver only for video card and i think i found it here on vogonsdrivers
-Windows XP - MicroXP, has some drivers + needs driver only for video card and i think i found it here on vogonsdrivers, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDYidBvx_oY video with it running Winamp and .mod file but didn't have the video driver for it
Planning to test:
-Windows NT 3.51 - i hope i will find all appropriate drivers for it
-Windows NT 4 - i hope i will find all appropriate drivers for it

5itx1.pdf
Motherboard manual
(1000 KiB) Not downloaded yet


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Re: The "kinda" working Pentium PC

Postby McKie1 » 2018-3-24 @ 12:18

Great to see younger people interested in the old school things :)

With the pci slots, have you had a look at the bios. Specifically if the pci slots are being set by the bios for their irq’s. Just my two cents.

Good luck with the build.
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Re: The "kinda" working Pentium PC

Postby Morc » 2018-3-25 @ 12:23

McKie1 wrote:Great to see younger people interested in the old school things :)

With the pci slots, have you had a look at the bios. Specifically if the pci slots are being set by the bios for their irq’s. Just my two cents.

Good luck with the build.

McKie1: Thanks for the fix. I already tried that but it stil looks like that nothing fixes.
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Re: The "kinda" working Pentium PC

Postby Tetrium » 2018-3-25 @ 16:21

Morc wrote:
McKie1 wrote:Great to see younger people interested in the old school things :)

With the pci slots, have you had a look at the bios. Specifically if the pci slots are being set by the bios for their irq’s. Just my two cents.

Good luck with the build.

McKie1: Thanks for the fix. I already tried that but it stil looks like that nothing fixes.

+ Here are those photos:

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looks like that imgur has issues

It's possible to upload pics directly to Vogons forum. Btw, was your case really originally containing a PIII? It does look like a very recent AT case and it looks pretty good.
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Re: The "kinda" working Pentium PC

Postby Morc » 2018-3-25 @ 19:06

Tetrium wrote:
Morc wrote:
McKie1 wrote:Great to see younger people interested in the old school things :)

With the pci slots, have you had a look at the bios. Specifically if the pci slots are being set by the bios for their irq’s. Just my two cents.

Good luck with the build.

McKie1: Thanks for the fix. I already tried that but it stil looks like that nothing fixes.

+ Here are those photos:

Click on photos to open album
-snip-
looks like that imgur has issues

It's possible to upload pics directly to Vogons forum. Btw, was your case really originally containing a PIII? It does look like a very recent AT case and it looks pretty good.


I did some calculations(thanks to sticker from computer store on back of case) and got that the case is something from 1997 - 2000(my uncle was working in that computer store). Motherboard was out last time so i don't know if it had P III originally or the P I and someone sticked the P III sticker on it.

+ i edited .pdf manual from sister board of the 5I-TX1(as nothing's on the internet and i don't have any manuals either) and made something like this: https://mega.nz/#!ZNNxnD7a!KwRsl1MCMHbp ... NWmVRKhYlU
it has +- all documentation about jumpers and undocumented things on board(but still thinking about the JP18..) + thanks to the documentation i can now use USB from chipset rather than the USB PCI card
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Re: The "kinda" working Pentium PC

Postby Morc » 2018-3-26 @ 15:03

Some updates. I've found that there aren't any IRQ errors on the stock bios(looks like the very first BIOS for that board) than on the patched(i had it to have ability to use up to 120GB drive).
After switching to the old bios, now everything gets their IRQ numbers.

And second thing: I am thinking about buying Compaq PremierSound(Soundblaster AudioPCI) card from my friend. Is it worth it, or will it work in Windows95/98??.
Here are even photos of it if someone wants(they're clickable).
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Re: The "kinda" working Pentium PC

Postby gdjacobs » 2018-3-26 @ 22:02

It'll work fine in WIn9x, but it's not particularly rare, special, or good. Feel free to buy it from your buddy, but don't spend very much for it.
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Re: The "kinda" working Pentium PC

Postby Morc » 2018-3-27 @ 20:06

gdjacobs wrote:It'll work fine in WIn9x, but it's not particularly rare, special, or good. Feel free to buy it from your buddy, but don't spend very much for it.


Thanks! I bought it from him for 5€ incl. shipping.

+ i was finding old photos and found some with me and my dad looking in +- the same build(note. this 2018 rebuild was built before seeing the photos.)
Mobo, HDD(the 2GB one from WD), RAM(i think), CPU, Case, Floppy Drive and CD ROM(hard to say) are same like in this rebuild.
Two things were other(Graphics and PSU). But after looking and inspecting photos i found that the computer had some kind of sound card(due to bad photos i don't know) and other graphics card. I found the same graphics card that was there before, connected it in and it worked. It was a Rendition Verite 2200 PCI. Found drivers here on vogonsdrivers.com installed them and got better resolution + color depth than on the Ali 3147V. But sadly i was unable to find the sound card that was on it.
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Re: The "kinda" working Pentium PC

Postby chinny22 » 2018-3-28 @ 00:37

Welcome :)
If you share the photo here someone may recognise that soundcard for you if you are trying to get it back to original.
otherwise your AudioPCI is a pretty good match for a Pentium 133 unless going with an ISA card, its really not fast enough to benefit from a Live!

Whats your main reason for building this PC? you more interested in playing games or with old hardware?
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Re: The "kinda" working Pentium PC

Postby Morc » 2018-3-29 @ 20:48

chinny22 wrote:Welcome :)
If you share the photo here someone may recognise that soundcard for you if you are trying to get it back to original.
otherwise your AudioPCI is a pretty good match for a Pentium 133 unless going with an ISA card, its really not fast enough to benefit from a Live!

Whats your main reason for building this PC? you more interested in playing games or with old hardware?


chinny22: Thanks. So you are asking why? I don't really know. I had some of the parts laying in my room catching dust so i had to put it in case. And for the second question. I am more interested in the old hardware instead of playing games(maybe sometimes).

+ the sound card i was talking about(it was first looking like a Sound Blaster 16), I found the sound card in my pictures and it is a Crystal CX4235 ISA Sound Card but i also bought the AudioPCI from my friend yesterday.

this was written and sent from Pentium computer :)
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Re: The "kinda" working Pentium PC

Postby Morc » 2018-8-22 @ 23:37

My journey with Pentium computer continues and i made some changes. I bought SD card to IDE adapter which works fine. Then i bought new shiny EVGA power supply for it. I chosen EVGA 450 B3. I know, it is a bit overkill but it was my first modular power supply i have at home. I also fully rebuilt it.
Journey continues and another problem arrived. One problem i seem to have now is that it works just fine on Windows 98 with all drivers and no problems but sometimes it just freezes out of nowhere. I caught it freezing when scrolling with mouse which is a bit awkward.. It was not doing it before but last time i played with it was around June.. I don't think that the new EVGA PSU is doing some problems there but that's why i ask you.

Edit: and i also ask for some help about CPU fan. I don't think that it was originally connected with molex cable so it needs to be somewhere on board?
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Re: The "kinda" working Pentium PC

Postby perkyagnostic » 2018-8-23 @ 07:25

I don't think that the new EVGA PSU is doing some problems there but that's why i ask you.


I don't really know but maybe your computer needs the -5V rail which the EVGA PSU lacks?
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Re: The "kinda" working Pentium PC

Postby Morc » 2018-9-07 @ 19:09

I don't think that -5V rail is doing some weird things because the PSU i was using before hasn't got -5V rail either and it was not doing any problems before.
Maybe only Windows 98 freezes on SD Card to IDE adapter..
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