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First post, by PcBytes

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Since I got a few parts, I decided to make a ~1999/2000 build. Not 100% period correct though because some of the parts I tried to match in the period were either broken or were dying.
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CPU: Intel Pentium 3 650MHz Coppermine Slot1
Motherboard: Acorp 6VIA81P-133
PSU: P&O LC-B400ATX 400W (this is because I can't really find any PSU that would be period correct)
GPU: MSI Geforce 2 Pro 64MB MS-8831 AGP4x
RAM: 2x128MB PC133 @ 100MHz
NIC: Realtek RTL8139D (originally a 3com was planned but it was very slow)
SPU: SoundBlaster CT2770 - sounds more clear than a PCI soundcard
HDD: Seagate ST310211A 10GB
OS: Microsoft Windows Codename "Millenium", build 2380.2
ODD: Hitachi-LG DVD-RW (two of the CD drives I have are on their last legs)

All there's left to do is just put everything in a case 😀

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 1 of 9, by Iris030380

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Sounds like a great period correct build, barring the couple of neccessaries. Windows Millenium is so under rated, I always thought it was a great looking operating system. I was going to say I'd have put a slightly faster P3 alongside that Geforce 2 Pro to give the card some legs but then I noticed you said SLOT1 Pentium III, so it's not just a case of £2.99 for an 800Mhz P3 flip chip from eBay.

Good specs, I like it. Any pictures?

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Reply 2 of 9, by PcBytes

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Here. I just finished doing some small changes to the machine
-2x Seagate ST310211A instead of one
-went with a NEC ND-3540A DVDRW
-added a Palit HSF combo (from a FX5500) on the GF2 Pro, looks totally rad now (for me)

To do:

-upgrade existing 98SE install to Millennium 2380 (I want to retain some of the stuff from.the old 98SE install)
-create a dualboot menu since one of the ST310211A drives has a Win2k install

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"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 3 of 9, by PcBytes

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And Millennium is finally up and running!

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"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 4 of 9, by kalm_traveler

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PcBytes wrote:

And Millennium is finally up and running!

congrats!

I tried to install Windows Me on this PIII Dell I picked up recently, but as soon as I installed sound card drivers and rebooted it would power off instantly upon trying to load Windows...

98SE has been more or less fine, with some BSOD's during sound card driver installation but eventually I got through them and it's been running fine.

Let us know if your luck holds out better than mine did!

Retro: Win2k/98SE - P3 1.13ghz, 512mb PC133 SDRAM, Quadro4 980XGL, Aureal Vortex 2
modern:i9 10980XE, 64gb DDR4, 2x Titan RTX | i9 9900KS, 32gb DDR4, RTX 2080 Ti | '19 Razer Blade Pro

Reply 5 of 9, by PcBytes

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Yeah, mine is one of the Beta1 builds (note the 4.90.2394 instead of 4.90.3000) and going by the installation files, it's much closer to 98SE.

The only differences are of course 2k icons from the beginning, as well as out-of-the-box USB storage support. Other than that, it's pretty much 98SE.

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 6 of 9, by derSammler

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Iris030380 wrote:

Windows Millenium is so under rated, I always thought it was a great looking operating system.

Fully agree. I have one Pentium II build that is running Windows ME, and I like it much better than 98SE. If real-mode DOS is not a requirement, I would always choose ME over 98SE. It has a more modern look and feel, boots much faster, especially when having a LAN card installed, and has USB support that actually works. Yes, it has some bugs, like the non-working system restore and also UI-related bugs e.g. when trying to set the virtual memory manually. But it's not as crappy as most people say, and 98SE wasn't bug-free either.

Reply 7 of 9, by Iris030380

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Windows 98SE was essentially a lottery every time you loaded it. Perhaps you can go three days without a BSOD, perhaps just a few hours. I never thought it was stable even towards the end. Millenium always felt like 98SE with some of the best features of Windows 2000.

I installed it on a few retro rigs over the years and used lots of the service packs and followed some detailed guides. Seems to be up and running (ie. less problems and restarts) much faster than 98, providing the system has enough beef. Something P3 with 256MB is usually enough.

I guess my only reason for not using millenium more back in the day was compatibility with certain games. Not sure if thats still an issue today, with the final drivers and the service packs etc.

I5-2500K @ 4.0Ghz + R9 290 + 8GB DDR3 1333 :: I3-540 @ 4.2 GHZ + 6870 4GB DDR3 2000 :: E6300 @ 2.7 GHZ + 1950XTX 2GB DDR2 800 :: A64 3700 + 1950PRO AGP 2GB DDR400 :: K63+ @ 550MHZ + V2 SLI 256 PC133:: P200 + MYSTIQUE / 3Dfx 128 PC66

Reply 8 of 9, by PcBytes

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Iris030380 wrote:

Windows 98SE was essentially a lottery every time you loaded it. Perhaps you can go three days without a BSOD, perhaps just a few hours. I never thought it was stable even towards the end. Millenium always felt like 98SE with some of the best features of Windows 2000.

I installed it on a few retro rigs over the years and used lots of the service packs and followed some detailed guides. Seems to be up and running (ie. less problems and restarts) much faster than 98, providing the system has enough beef. Something P3 with 256MB is usually enough.

I guess my only reason for not using millenium more back in the day was compatibility with certain games. Not sure if thats still an issue today, with the final drivers and the service packs etc.

My install of Millennium Beta 1 build 2394 seems to be running fine, save for an issue with IDE drivers where my LG DVD-ROM (I switched back to a LG GSA-H58N drive with a swapped white faceplate because it was newer and was reading better than the NEC drive) isn't detected under 9x, but 2000 SP4 will see it. I have a NEC USB card anyways and it's supported out of the box, so no worries of a missing CD-ROM in the My Computer window.

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 9 of 9, by oeuvre

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yo dawg I heard you liked Windows Millennium so we put a Matrox Millennium in it so you can run Millennium on a Millennium

HP Z420 Workstation Intel Xeon E5-1620, 32GB, RADEON HD7850 2GB, SSD + HD, XP/7
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