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Reply 20 of 30, by gdjacobs

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FrostyTheSnowman wrote on 2020-01-24, 19:14:
appiah4 wrote on 2020-01-24, 18:19:

You sure do love that Chenbro case 😁

One might call me a Chen-BRO. 😁

In all seriousness though it *is* a dope case - 90% tool-less, server-grade with lots of airflow, comes in both black *and* white and is totally rigid even when empty. 😉

They may not be flashy, but they're beasts!

All hail the Great Capacitor Brand Finder

Reply 22 of 30, by FrostyTheSnowman

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gdjacobs wrote on 2020-01-25, 00:32:
FrostyTheSnowman wrote on 2020-01-24, 19:14:
appiah4 wrote on 2020-01-24, 18:19:

You sure do love that Chenbro case 😁

One might call me a Chen-BRO. 😁

In all seriousness though it *is* a dope case - 90% tool-less, server-grade with lots of airflow, comes in both black *and* white and is totally rigid even when empty. 😉

They may not be flashy, but they're beasts!

imi wrote on 2020-01-25, 00:51:
FrostyTheSnowman wrote on 2020-01-24, 19:14:

One might call me a Chen-BRO. 😁

ba-dum-tss

yeah they're really nice ^^

^^ these two know where it's at 😉

All aboard the Chenbro party train!

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Reply 24 of 30, by FrostyTheSnowman

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imi wrote on 2020-01-26, 22:57:

there were a few on sale NiB on ebay a few months ago... iirc they went for €100+ not quite my price range for an old case unfortunately ^^

Definitely a pricey case - I have been buying mine through eBay, Newegg, Office Depot and Walmart for about $110 shipped (model is SR209) not sure about outside the U.S. though. 🙁

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Reply 26 of 30, by foil_fresh

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FrostyTheSnowman wrote on 2020-01-24, 16:29:

That sounds like a solder joint issue to me, caused by thermal expansion of the motherboard... 55c is hot, but not 'freeze the computer' hot - these CPUs don't start throttling their speed until 75-80c, so likely a motherboard issue. 🙁

yeah my suspicion too. behind the retention bracket is visually bulged ;( i have had it about a year and in the last month the SATA ports have died and now this

😀)))))))

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Reply 27 of 30, by FrostyTheSnowman

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foil_fresh wrote on 2020-01-28, 03:48:
FrostyTheSnowman wrote on 2020-01-24, 16:29:

That sounds like a solder joint issue to me, caused by thermal expansion of the motherboard... 55c is hot, but not 'freeze the computer' hot - these CPUs don't start throttling their speed until 75-80c, so likely a motherboard issue. 🙁

yeah my suspicion too. behind the retention bracket is visually bulged ;( i have had it about a year and in the last month the SATA ports have died and now this

😀)))))))

I've noticed a lot of 478 motherboards have 'the bulge' (i.e. the oem heatsink puts enough pressure against the 478 socket to bow the motherboard underneath it), even back when these motherboards were new it was fairly common... I always hated seeing it because over time the solder joints will FOR SURE crack from thermal expansion.

When I purchased my AIMB-742 it was NOS, and instead of installing the heatsink as-is (would have bowed the motherboard) I decided to put spacers between the motherboard and the retention bracket (moving the bracket farther away from the motherboard and decreasing strain on the socket).

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Reply 28 of 30, by foil_fresh

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FrostyTheSnowman wrote on 2020-02-03, 17:35:
foil_fresh wrote on 2020-01-28, 03:48:
FrostyTheSnowman wrote on 2020-01-24, 16:29:

That sounds like a solder joint issue to me, caused by thermal expansion of the motherboard... 55c is hot, but not 'freeze the computer' hot - these CPUs don't start throttling their speed until 75-80c, so likely a motherboard issue. 🙁

yeah my suspicion too. behind the retention bracket is visually bulged ;( i have had it about a year and in the last month the SATA ports have died and now this

😀)))))))

I've noticed a lot of 478 motherboards have 'the bulge' (i.e. the oem heatsink puts enough pressure against the 478 socket to bow the motherboard underneath it), even back when these motherboards were new it was fairly common... I always hated seeing it because over time the solder joints will FOR SURE crack from thermal expansion.

When I purchased my AIMB-742 it was NOS, and instead of installing the heatsink as-is (would have bowed the motherboard) I decided to put spacers between the motherboard and the retention bracket (moving the bracket farther away from the motherboard and decreasing strain on the socket).

good call on the spacers. might do the same, i have an Asus P4R800-VM on the way as a replacement. hopefully it hasnt been used as much as the current dead board, but if i run into issues i'm switching over to athlon 64 so that i can continue using this hefty awesome copper cooler.

how much height is on the spacers you're using? something small like 1-2mm?

cheers

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P3 667 MHz / SY-7VBA / Voodoo 3000 / Diamond Monster MX300
Athlon XP 2200+ / SL-75FRN2-L / Radeon 9600 XT / Audigy Platinum eX
P4 3.2GHz / RIP MOBO / Geforce 6800 GT / Audigy

Reply 29 of 30, by FrostyTheSnowman

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foil_fresh wrote on 2020-02-04, 07:21:
good call on the spacers. might do the same, i have an Asus P4R800-VM on the way as a replacement. hopefully it hasnt been used […]
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FrostyTheSnowman wrote on 2020-02-03, 17:35:
foil_fresh wrote on 2020-01-28, 03:48:

yeah my suspicion too. behind the retention bracket is visually bulged ;( i have had it about a year and in the last month the SATA ports have died and now this

😀)))))))

I've noticed a lot of 478 motherboards have 'the bulge' (i.e. the oem heatsink puts enough pressure against the 478 socket to bow the motherboard underneath it), even back when these motherboards were new it was fairly common... I always hated seeing it because over time the solder joints will FOR SURE crack from thermal expansion.

When I purchased my AIMB-742 it was NOS, and instead of installing the heatsink as-is (would have bowed the motherboard) I decided to put spacers between the motherboard and the retention bracket (moving the bracket farther away from the motherboard and decreasing strain on the socket).

good call on the spacers. might do the same, i have an Asus P4R800-VM on the way as a replacement. hopefully it hasnt been used as much as the current dead board, but if i run into issues i'm switching over to athlon 64 so that i can continue using this hefty awesome copper cooler.

how much height is on the spacers you're using? something small like 1-2mm?

cheers

Yep, I just used a couple of #10 nylon washers to space the retention bracket out about 2-3mm on my AIMB-742 (your spacing will depend on your motherboard's bracket design though). 😀

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Reply 30 of 30, by foil_fresh

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cheers bud

K6-2+ 550 / Riva 128 / HOT591-p / AWE64 / YMF744
P3 667 MHz / SY-7VBA / Voodoo 3000 / Diamond Monster MX300
Athlon XP 2200+ / SL-75FRN2-L / Radeon 9600 XT / Audigy Platinum eX
P4 3.2GHz / RIP MOBO / Geforce 6800 GT / Audigy