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Reply 40 of 48, by nd22

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You are right according to the reviews of the time, however in my own personal testing - just preliminary - things are looking different! This is an idea for a future project I had in mind:
Athlon 1400C tested on Abit KT7A - VIA KT133A with SDRAM PC133; Abit KG7-raid - AMD760 with DDR and Abit KR7A - VIA KT266A with DDR266. The main problem is finding a compatible graphic card for all 3 systems!

Reply 42 of 48, by nd22

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Yes, they would. I do not have a radeon 8500 however I tested Abit geforce3 ti500 & ti4600 and they work fine, however like in the socket 462 comparative period correct graphic cards are outclassed in games and benchmarks, even in period correct ones, at maximum settings! The scope is to have a platform bottleneck and not a GPU bottleneck, all others variables being equals! For example in 3d mark 2001 geforce4 gets crushed and all 3 platforms get the same score at max settings despite great differences in 3d mark 2000! Geforce 7800gs, 6600gt and any bridged cards I tested refuse to run on any of the 3 boards!

Reply 43 of 48, by God Of Gaming

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Well, isn't that a good thing? If with a GF3 Ti500 all 3 boards perform identically, then it doesn't matter which board is fastest and you would rather pick the one with the nicest features 😀 That would likely be the KT7A because it has ISA

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Reply 44 of 48, by Delerium

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nd22 wrote on 2021-03-16, 16:48:

You are right according to the reviews of the time, however in my own personal testing - just preliminary - things are looking different! This is an idea for a future project I had in mind:
Athlon 1400C tested on Abit KT7A - VIA KT133A with SDRAM PC133; Abit KG7-raid - AMD760 with DDR and Abit KR7A - VIA KT266A with DDR266. The main problem is finding a compatible graphic card for all 3 systems!

For my first AMD Athlon DDR system I used a MSI K7T266 Pro2 motherboard with VIA KT266. I had some issues with it. My ASUS V8200 Deluxe GeForce3 did not run at AGP 4X, only AGP 2X. I later upgraded it to the ASUS A7V266-E with VIA KT266A and the performance increase was noticeable with the same CPU, AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1200C. AGP 4X was also no problem anymore. The VIA KT266 was not very good, but the KT266A was a good chipset.

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Reply 45 of 48, by SScorpio

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God Of Gaming wrote on 2020-06-04, 10:29:

btw, mobo trays are awesome, you use them as a test bench, and when happy just slide them in from the back and you're done, so convenient! Why dont they make such cases anymore?

Some business-oriented machines still have them. I'm just glad many consumer cases still have rear cutouts behind the CPU to allow changing of a cooler's mounting hardware without having to take the motherboard out of the case.

Reply 46 of 48, by Repo Man11

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About this time 11 years ago I decided to build a KT7A nostalgia system, and I wanted to max it out. So I bought 1.5 gigs of SDRAM, a PCI SATA card, and a Radeon HD 4650 AGP. I was a bit disappointed in the result, and ended up parting it out, but the HD 4650 worked fine in the KT7A I had.

"A lot of times when you first start out on a project you think, This is never going to be finished. But then it is, and you think, Wow, it wasn't even worth it." - Jack Handey

Reply 47 of 48, by nd22

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God Of Gaming wrote on 2021-03-17, 08:23:

Well, isn't that a good thing? If with a GF3 Ti500 all 3 boards perform identically, then it doesn't matter which board is fastest and you would rather pick the one with the nicest features 😀 That would likely be the KT7A because it has ISA

IMHO it is not a good thing because you would not know that AMD760 is faster than VIA KT133A for example - in 3d mark 2000 KT266A + AMD760 far outscores KT133A even with geforce4 ti4600. As I said my purpose is to have a platform bottleneck and not a GPU bottleneck, all others variables being equals! However if you like having an ISA sound card in your system than by all means, please use KT133A motherboard!

Reply 48 of 48, by God Of Gaming

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Of course, having a platform bottleneck is a good way to find out how they compare, but then for actual use in a 2001 build with a 2001 card, if the bottleneck is on the gpu side and all 3 perform the same, all Im saying the ultimate board to use may not necessarily be the fastest board, but the one with the most features. With all that said, 3dmark is not necessarily representitive of all gaming. It might be gpu bottlenecked in 3dmark, but might be platform bottlenecked in some actual game, maybe perhaps some rts with more AI calculations or whatever

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