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Reply 20 of 35, by God Of Gaming

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if I'm not mistaken athlon XP has fixed multi, only the mobile XP-M had unlocked multi? So if the multi is higher, I won't need to push the fsb as much to get a good oc?

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Reply 22 of 35, by God Of Gaming

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2nd WD 36gb Raptor that I bought with the refund from the first one, arrived today, this one seems to be working fine, hd sentinel detects 100% health and 530 days power-on time. Interestingly, this new one is not being detected on my main PC where I tried to test it first, unlike the previous one I can feel this one spinning up, it just isnt detected. But an older core 2 quad PC detected it fine. Probably since it's an early sata 1 hdd, what's more using ide to sata bridge internally, I guess it doesn't like modern sata 3 controllers. Well, let's hope it works on the 2003 pc's built in Silicon Image sata controller, will be a shame if I have to add a pci controller 😀

p.s. I now have basically everything I need to complete the build. I won't be home till monday so I'll build it then. I only lack two more 250gb HDDs so its 4 in total to fill all the 3.5" slots, a 2003 floppy drive, and a properly working 2003 dvd drive (I think it has to be plextor px-708a as those were supposedly best 2003 dvd burners, but I bought 3 of these and all 3 came broken 🙁 )

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Reply 24 of 35, by God Of Gaming

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Can I get a little bit of assistance, I'm trying to finalize the build now, and, Win98SE install does not see the Raptor, says no hard drives detected. On drivers site https://soggi.org/motherboards/asus/A7N8X-Deluxe-2.0.htm I see theres a RAID driver for win9x, but, unlike win2k/XP where I know how to use these (press F6 during setup to load driver from floppy) I have no idea how to do it for win98 setup, as win98 setup does not have the F6 prompt. The readme included in the driver download says to install win98 first and then update the driver in the device manager, but I cant install win98 if it doesnt see the hard drive, can I 😀 Any idea how to go about this?

p.s. forget that, mobo had jumper to enable sata controller and it was set to disabled, after moving it win98 was able to detect the hdd and start the setup, but after it rebooted its now stuck on "getting ready to start windows for the first time" and idk why, fml

p.s.2 figured it out, turned out badass 😀
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Reply 25 of 35, by God Of Gaming

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My April 2003 dream PC build finally complete!

case: Antec SLK3700AMB
mobo: Asus A7N8X Deluxe v2.0
cpu: AMD Athlon XP 3000+ (barton)
ram: 3x1gb running at ddr333 2.5-3-3-7
gpu: Sapphire ATi Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb
system drive: WD Raptor 36gb 10000rpm
data drives: 2x 250gb WD Caviar SE 250gb 7200rpm
psu: Enermax.... EG365 was it?
+Teac something-or-another CD burner
+Plextor PX-708A DVD burner
+some Teac floppy
quadroboot of win98se + win2000 sp3 + winXP sp1 + win server 2003 enterprise
all software installed period correct
ready to game

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oh, has an Asus TV FM Card as well, not sure what Id use it for but may as well have it
if you wonder why I didn't add an Audigy 2, I wanted to try out the onboard nvidia soundstorm as its rather interesting

todo: Get two more wd caviar se 250gb drives to fill all 5 slots, also an extra ide controller for them. Get corsair ram with better timings. Get better cpu cooler than this zalman, temps give me no oc headroom. Get period-correct peripherals

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Reply 27 of 35, by God Of Gaming

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As it turned out not quite as well as I expected it to. I tried running Serious Sam completely maxed out and at 1600x1200 with 16x AF and 6x AA, and fps was not great, had to lower to 4xAA and reduce a couple of game settings to get avg 60. Gee, was that game the Crysis of its time or what, a top of the line PC 2 years newer cant best it 😀

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Reply 29 of 35, by melbar

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Very nice configuration! I like your Antec.

How is the overall noise? I assume the 10000 rpm raptor is the inside the top 3 of all audible part, isn't?

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Reply 30 of 35, by God Of Gaming

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Raptor made an audible noise while it was hanging outside the case as I was setting things up, but now that its inside, really some fan noise is all I can hear... honestly its not a particularly loud machine, its probably comparable to my main PC actually. BTW I feel the AXP 3000+ may be holding things back a bit, but even tho it seems to be unlocked multiplier, I'm unable to overclock it as even for just a slight boost it asks for plenty of vcore increase, and the temps go too high. This zalman cooler was supposed to be good, so I bet people back in the day were only overclocking this chip on water. I should probably also buy the period-correct mobile thorougbred XP-M 2600+ and see if it overclocks anywhere near as good as the mobile bartons do, perhaps I will be able to get more performance out of that than out of the 3k+

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Reply 31 of 35, by God Of Gaming

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This is unexpected, the first raptor that came dead... looks like a friend was somehow able to fix it... so I now have 2... what to do, sell? Probably no one other than me buys old hard drives tho... How about add it to this build to set up a RAID array with the other one 😁

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Reply 33 of 35, by The Serpent Rider

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so I now have 2.

I would just leave it in storage, in case the one installed die someday.

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.

Reply 34 of 35, by God Of Gaming

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Crap, while being in hurry to 100% complete at least one of my retro builds, I've missed on some crucial details... This is NOT an ultimate PC as of april 2003 as I wished it was. April 2003 saw the release of P4 HT 3.0 and the new i875P chipset, and that combo outperforms AXP 3000+ on nF2. April also saw the release of the first Opterons, maxing out at only 1.8ghz, but with 1mb L2 and vastly improved ipc, theres a good chance those outperform the barton as well (cant find any benchmarks). So no, this is not ultimate for april 2003. It could be ultimate for march 2003, nothing faster than AXP 3000+ on nf2 existed in march, but the 9800 pro was released in april, so to make this an ultimate march 2003 pc, I will need a... FX 5800 Ultra... which is unobtanium today... sigh...

Had some fun beating a bunch of 2003 games on this build till I realised my mistake. Damn, I need to fix this before I continue using it

1999 Dream PC project | DirectX 8 PC project | 2003 Dream PC project