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First post, by Allanar

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Hi guys,please
Which you would recommend motherboard under this processor, until 1999.

Coppermine Pentium III 600MHz or 650MHz, Socket 1,FSB 100MHz
SDRAM 128 MB,PC 100
Voodoo 3 3000 AGP

Thanks 😀

Reply 1 of 14, by leonardo

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Allanar wrote on 2021-01-05, 23:39:
Hi guys,please Which you would recommend motherboard under this processor, until 1999. […]
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Hi guys,please
Which you would recommend motherboard under this processor, until 1999.

Coppermine Pentium III 600MHz or 650MHz, Socket 1,FSB 100MHz
SDRAM 128 MB,PC 100
Voodoo 3 3000 AGP

Thanks 😀

I'll recommend the Intel 440BX AGPSet based boards such as ASUS P2B, AOpen AX6BC, Abit BH6, MSI MS6119, Gigabyte GA-6BXC, EPoX EP-61 BXA-M... many great boards around that era. You can go all the way from PII 233 MHz up to 1 GHz Coppermine Pentium IIIs on many of these boards. I know there are some caveats with Slot1, but if you have a SlotKet adapter, you can use Socket 370 CPUs with these motherboards as well.

My retro rigs
Methuselah, AMD K6-III+ 400 MHz, Voodoo 3 PCI, etc...
Longbottom, Pentium III 1 GHz, Radeon 9200, Aureal Vortex2

Reply 2 of 14, by Allanar

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leonardo wrote on 2021-01-05, 23:47:
Allanar wrote on 2021-01-05, 23:39:
Hi guys,please Which you would recommend motherboard under this processor, until 1999. […]
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Hi guys,please
Which you would recommend motherboard under this processor, until 1999.

Coppermine Pentium III 600MHz or 650MHz, Socket 1,FSB 100MHz
SDRAM 128 MB,PC 100
Voodoo 3 3000 AGP

Thanks 😀

I'll recommend the Intel 440BX AGPSet based boards such as ASUS P2B, AOpen AX6BC, Abit BH6, MSI MS6119, Gigabyte GA-6BXC, EPoX EP-61 BXA-M... many great boards around that era. You can go all the way from PII 233 MHz up to 1 GHz Coppermine Pentium IIIs on many of these boards. I know there are some caveats with Slot1, but if you have a SlotKet adapter, you can use Socket 370 CPUs with these motherboards as well.

Thank you for the tips,another question please:
How do i know which board supports underclocking to reduce cpu performance for some DOS games...
It doesn't matter that the motherboard was made before than a cpu

Reply 3 of 14, by leonardo

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Allanar wrote on 2021-01-06, 08:55:
Thank you for the tips,another question please: How do i know which board supports underclocking to reduce cpu performance for s […]
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Allanar wrote on 2021-01-05, 23:39:
Hi guys,please Which you would recommend motherboard under this processor, until 1999. […]
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Hi guys,please
Which you would recommend motherboard under this processor, until 1999.

Coppermine Pentium III 600MHz or 650MHz, Socket 1,FSB 100MHz
SDRAM 128 MB,PC 100
Voodoo 3 3000 AGP

Thanks 😀

I'll recommend the Intel 440BX AGPSet based boards such as ASUS P2B, AOpen AX6BC, Abit BH6, MSI MS6119, Gigabyte GA-6BXC, EPoX EP-61 BXA-M... many great boards around that era. You can go all the way from PII 233 MHz up to 1 GHz Coppermine Pentium IIIs on many of these boards. I know there are some caveats with Slot1, but if you have a SlotKet adapter, you can use Socket 370 CPUs with these motherboards as well.

Thank you for the tips,another question please:
How do i know which board supports underclocking to reduce cpu performance for some DOS games...
It doesn't matter that the motherboard was made before than a cpu

Well... all of them do with multiplier unlocked CPUs. If your CPU is multiplier-locked (like most Slot1 CPUs were) you can under clock by lowering the front side bus speed from 100 to 66 MHz (assuming your CPU is specced for 100 or 133 MHz FSB). However, a more efficient way to reduce performance will be to disable L1 or L2 cache in the BIOS.

For example, if your CPU is the 350 MHz Pentium II (3.5x multiplier, 100 MHz FSB), setting the FSB to 66 MHz will result in a clock speed of 231 MHz. To further handicap the CPU you would turn off L2, L1, or both.

My retro rigs
Methuselah, AMD K6-III+ 400 MHz, Voodoo 3 PCI, etc...
Longbottom, Pentium III 1 GHz, Radeon 9200, Aureal Vortex2

Reply 4 of 14, by PARKE

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Allanar wrote on 2021-01-05, 23:39:

Which you would recommend motherboard under this processor, until 1999.
Coppermine Pentium III 600MHz or 650MHz, Socket 1,FSB 100MHz

"Socket 1" refers to [Slot 1 aka SECC] I assume.
There are 4 different 600MHz Slot 1 cpu's and they partially correspond differently with different configurations.
-PIII 600 fsb100 Katmai
-PIII 600B fsb133 Katmai
-PIII 600E fsb100 Coppermine
-PIII 600EB fsb133 Coppermine

It is easier to answer your question when the exact type of your cpu is known.

Reply 5 of 14, by mothergoose729

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Coppermine CPUs are not compatible with slot 1 without a slotket adapter. I don't really see the point in getting a pricier slot 1 board if you know for sure you are going to use that particular CPU. A socket 370 board with an ISA slot will work just as well.

A pentium III can be made to run at roughly 386 speeds by disabling L1 cache using setmul, but they can't approximate 486 speeds.

https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/List_of_ … sensitive_games

Reply 6 of 14, by Allanar

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PARKE wrote on 2021-01-06, 16:48:
"Socket 1" refers to [Slot 1 aka SECC] I assume. There are 4 different 600MHz Slot 1 cpu's and they partially correspond differe […]
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Allanar wrote on 2021-01-05, 23:39:

Which you would recommend motherboard under this processor, until 1999.
Coppermine Pentium III 600MHz or 650MHz, Socket 1,FSB 100MHz

"Socket 1" refers to [Slot 1 aka SECC] I assume.
There are 4 different 600MHz Slot 1 cpu's and they partially correspond differently with different configurations.
-PIII 600 fsb100 Katmai
-PIII 600B fsb133 Katmai
-PIII 600E fsb100 Coppermine
-PIII 600EB fsb133 Coppermine

It is easier to answer your question when the exact type of your cpu is known.

yes i meant this III 600E fsb100 Coppermine and the motherboard I want I would take this MSI MS-6163 BX Slot-1

Reply 7 of 14, by PARKE

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Allanar wrote on 2021-01-06, 20:45:

yes i meant this III 600E fsb100 Coppermine and the motherboard I want I would take this MSI MS-6163 BX Slot-1

Yes, that is a nice and fast board. The 'PRO' version:2 is the best choice.

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Reply 8 of 14, by Allanar

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mothergoose729 wrote on 2021-01-06, 17:36:

Coppermine CPUs are not compatible with slot 1 without a slotket adapter. I don't really see the point in getting a pricier slot 1 board if you know for sure you are going to use that particular CPU. A socket 370 board with an ISA slot will work just as well.

A pentium III can be made to run at roughly 386 speeds by disabling L1 cache using setmul, but they can't approximate 486 speeds.

https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/List_of_ … sensitive_games

I don't know, but according to the compatibility list it should be there

https://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/BX_M ... 6163).html

Reply 9 of 14, by Allanar

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PARKE wrote on 2021-01-06, 20:52:
Allanar wrote on 2021-01-06, 20:45:

yes i meant this III 600E fsb100 Coppermine and the motherboard I want I would take this MSI MS-6163 BX Slot-1

Yes, that is a nice and fast board. The 'PRO' version:2 is the best choice. $_85.JPG

I have the option to buy ver:1 ,for a good price I can use it?

Reply 11 of 14, by H3nrik V!

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mothergoose729 wrote on 2021-01-06, 17:36:

Coppermine CPUs are not compatible with slot 1 without a slotket adapter.

Yes they are, if board's BIOS and VRM supports them.

Slot-1 Coppermines up to at least 1GHz exist. (Maybe even 1133 MHz, but that's more doubtful if they were released or not).

Please use the "quote" option if asking questions to what I write - it will really up the chances of me noticing 😀

Reply 12 of 14, by Allanar

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H3nrik V! wrote on 2021-01-07, 07:50:
mothergoose729 wrote on 2021-01-06, 17:36:

Coppermine CPUs are not compatible with slot 1 without a slotket adapter.

Yes they are, if board's BIOS and VRM supports them.

Slot-1 Coppermines up to at least 1GHz exist. (Maybe even 1133 MHz, but that's more doubtful if they were released or not).

Yes exactly, the BIOS needs to be updated,bois must be used for version motherboard MS-6163 Pro...

Reply 13 of 14, by chinny22

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Good news, It's been confirmed V1 boards support Coppermine 😀
Pentium III Coppermine 700MHz - 1 GHz voltage question (MSI MS-6163 Ver 1.0)

Reply 14 of 14, by Allanar

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chinny22 wrote on 2021-01-07, 10:29:

Good news, It's been confirmed V1 boards support Coppermine 😀
Pentium III Coppermine 700MHz - 1 GHz voltage question (MSI MS-6163 Ver 1.0)

great last night i found it 😀