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Games that uses the CM-32L specific sound effects

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Reply 60 of 68, by Dimitris1980

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Spikey wrote on 2021-11-29, 00:46:

Yeah, my quick diagnosis after listening with headphones is that you're right. They sound digital, not like actual digital sound effects, but like the PCM sampled sound effects do on the CM series (and the Sound Canvases/other GM2 and GS devices).

Like Leisure Suit Larry 5, the CM FX notes are likely sent on the drum channel. If you can send me a save, or confirm that it's the beginning of the game, I'll record it and take a look at the data.

It is on the beginning of the game. Exactly next screen on the right (dead mans pier screen)

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Reply 61 of 68, by Dimitris1980

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Below is a sample from Beneath A Steel Sky. The dog sound effect exists on sound blaster and Roland CM64 but not on MT32.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDYym31SziM&t=35s

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Reply 62 of 68, by AppleSauce

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Is it just me or are the cm32l pcm sound effects in ultima underworld super quiet while the music is blaringly loud?

I've tried it on munt as well as my physical unit and they both seem to do the same thing?

Reply 64 of 68, by Spikey

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AppleSauce wrote on 2022-03-28, 08:51:

Is it just me or are the cm32l pcm sound effects in ultima underworld super quiet while the music is blaringly loud?

I've tried it on munt as well as my physical unit and they both seem to do the same thing?

They are a bit quiet in general (I'm not familiar with the UU example). Every CM-32L instrument is a combo of synthesis and PCM, except for the sound effects which are PCM only, so it makes sense that they would have to be quieter. Are you sure you're talking about the digital sound effects, though? The CM can make sound effects from regular patches (LA/PCM) or the special SFX (PCM only).

According to this site: http://www.vgmpf.com/Wiki/index.php?tit ... byss_(DOS)
"Despite supporting a number of devices for music, all sound effects are sent to the PC Speaker.".

But then another person on Reddit says "You want the CM-32L rom for more realistic footsteps in that game.". So maybe both devices are used?

Reply 65 of 68, by Dominus

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The PC speaker comment is wrong AFAIR. You can setup SB, Adlib or Roland but not PC speaker

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Reply 66 of 68, by AppleSauce

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Spikey wrote on 2022-08-02, 04:01:
They are a bit quiet in general (I'm not familiar with the UU example). Every CM-32L instrument is a combo of synthesis and PCM, […]
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AppleSauce wrote on 2022-03-28, 08:51:

Is it just me or are the cm32l pcm sound effects in ultima underworld super quiet while the music is blaringly loud?

I've tried it on munt as well as my physical unit and they both seem to do the same thing?

They are a bit quiet in general (I'm not familiar with the UU example). Every CM-32L instrument is a combo of synthesis and PCM, except for the sound effects which are PCM only, so it makes sense that they would have to be quieter. Are you sure you're talking about the digital sound effects, though? The CM can make sound effects from regular patches (LA/PCM) or the special SFX (PCM only).

According to this site: http://www.vgmpf.com/Wiki/index.php?tit ... byss_(DOS)
"Despite supporting a number of devices for music, all sound effects are sent to the PC Speaker.".

But then another person on Reddit says "You want the CM-32L rom for more realistic footsteps in that game.". So maybe both devices are used?

Sounds like the door creak or water sound for me are really quiet, ultima has an option to disable the sfx from the music but no option to adjust them , it might just be whatever software in game handles the volume levels was coded badly.

I dont think the speaker is used , you can use a combo of sound blaster and cm32L but the sound blaster sfx is only used for the cutscenes I think. In game the 32L handles the music and sfx.

Reply 67 of 68, by dr.zeissler

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Malik wrote on 2022-08-01, 23:08:

GODS by The Bitmap Brothers uses the LAPC-I / CM32L sound effects exclusively. The flying witches' dying sounds are the most obvious.

great to hear, I need a power supply for my CM32L and then I can test this 😀

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Reply 68 of 68, by Dimitris1980

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Gods seems very nice with Roland CM64 but I have played only the first level. I think it may be better than Amiga version but also I have played only the first level on Amiga 1200.

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