DosWin wrote:

Also interesting what dont emulates in 3Dfx for full emulation.

Windows

Sorry, leileilol, but leave your sarcasm to yourself.

If you have something to say on the matter, talk, or - go by.

But he's RIGHT!
And why don't you read the topic about this patch? It answers your questions.
3dfx support is not in normal Dosbox, it is only a patch for now...

Accepted only the main line of DOSBox(0.7x), as I can understand?

Currently only 10 win3dfx games (from 238 tested) are needing Win9x.
Andretti Racing, Asghan (install/config), Barrage (ctd), Cybergladiators (too fast), FIFA 2002 (ctd), Le Mans 24 Hours (ctd in several modes), Nascar 2000, Nascar Revolution, The Tainted (config), Time Warriors (install). And the work is in progress...
So - can't see the point to install Win98 inside dosbox. Just use the Xp + nGlide combo. Or DOSBox (with 3dfx patch) + nGlide for the DOS glide games.

Games, which need Win98 much, much more and its not 3Dfx\D3D only.

Also some games dont work on modern systems with patches even(example, Warhammer 40000: Chaos Gate, Mission Chameleon) or works very fast in VPC even(Hesperian Wars), or in general dont work(Detective Bogey). And I dont have possibilities for XP, and I rather install Win98, because some games dont work in XP normally(Cossacks). Plus some games have graphic bugs on modern systems(Hype: Time Quest on some Nvidia cards - dont sure about all line - part of the screen is black;Settlers 4).

If Win9x emulation would not have been needed, nobody would and did. But it is necessary. And if it possible, why not do full 3Dfx and D3D emulation? And dont say about what DB Daum is a patch and wait new version in main line of DOSBox - do something(and play) possible now. And DB Daum also valuable as DOSBox.

So, what part of DosBox can you not understand? There is no support for windows 9x games or Glide/D3D
on the official dosbox.

Want to say - "wait Win9x support and 3Dfx\D3D in official\main line DOSBox"? I think while wait possible do something and play in "not official" DB Daum - run Win98SE, Windows games, run\do and fix 3Dfx and D3D emulation.

Otherwise much easier than waiting new version of DOSBox - go to the DOSBox Team and make possible Win9x and 3Dfx and D3D emulation in <official> DOSBox.

Simply exchange opinions pointless.

having a true working virtual win9x computer would be a dream for me, since I have some games like PGA Tour Gold that do not work on anything I have (virtual pcs on vmware or virtualbox, windows seven, etc.)

Some game like Jet Moto, NBA Jam Extreme or Mortal Kombat 4 glitch alot, even with fan patch on modern system. People tell me to play the playstation version of the three game but that not a solution to me, If I bought it for pc, it is because I want to play it on pc

Microsoft Flight Simulator for Windows 95 has alot of bug when not run on windows 95.

The problem is specially games designed for windows 95.

Thought I doubt it will happen anytime soon, at least Windows 3.11 work well...

Try and run Silver on anything else than an authentic Windows 98 box... The development guys at Dosbox should maybe start a second project? One that would emulate machines with hardware that the user can specific. e.g. a Windows 98 machine with 4mb S3 and 12mb Voodoo 2 graphics, etc.
Virtual PC sucks for this purpose (any virtualization software for that matter).
The Daum SVN for Dosbox is the best I've seen as it actually DOES something.

VenoMpie wrote:

Try and run Silver on anything else than an authentic Windows 98 box... The development guys at Dosbox should maybe start a second project? One that would emulate machines with hardware that the user can specific. e.g. a Windows 98 machine with 4mb S3 and 12mb Voodoo 2 graphics, etc.
Virtual PC sucks for this purpose (any virtualization software for that matter).
The Daum SVN for Dosbox is the best I've seen as it actually DOES something.

Hell yeah! I'm pretty sure it can be done, though the reason why such a thing doesn't exist is probably because programs like DosBox and conventional VMs are easier to develop, and they also cater to a wider range of interests.

PCem would have probably went in this direction had it had some dedicated experienced devs working on it. So far it emulates from a 5150 up to a AM5x86-133 with an s3 card. With some more assembly and love for SSE2 / OpenCL we'd see Pentium II w/ Voodoo2 happen 😀

It's somewhat of a "dream emulator" because you can specify the class, BIOS, CPU, even video bus speed, which is something I hadn't seen in other x86 emulators

Is PCEm open source? If so, one of us should continue development on it. It would be freakin' awesome! 😁

It is open source, yes.

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:

Is PCEm open source? If so, one of us should continue development on it. It would be freakin' awesome! 😁

Indeed. It passed my acid test quite nicely - ran the install of 386Max memory manager.

Does some games crash DOSbox when leaving the game and returning to Windows 9x ?

It happened when I tried to play Lego stunt rally and leave Lego stunt rally and return to Windows but it crashes.

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