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First post, by Doomn00b

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Yeah... so, I've got this program I want to install, however, the installation is somewhat head-puzzlingly complicated.

It utilises two install-utilities, exe-file 1 and exe-file 2 - the two files are then meant to create INSTALL-DISKS, aka install-floppies, onto two floppies. When created, these two floppies are then used to install the program.

HOW do I do this?! Do I need to create a virtual floppy drive and then create two empty, writeable floppy-images for loading onto these two virtual floppies, and then use an SVN that allows for hot-swapping floppy-images?

Help a noob out here... where do I even begin?

Reply 1 of 3, by olddos25

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I would suggest you to run the first installer file with a blank floopy image mounted, do the same with the second and then use an SVN build to install the program.

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Reply 2 of 3, by Doomn00b

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olddos25 wrote:

I would suggest you to run the first installer file with a blank floopy image mounted, do the same with the second and then use an SVN build to install the program.

Cheers for the reply. How do I go about creating these blank floppy images though? Do I have to use a separate program for this? I've been googling on the problem, but I'm uncertain of what I should do...

I found these links:

Imgmake (defunct? special command from a special build of Dosbox)
Patch: Imgmake - creates floppy or harddisk images

ImDisk Virtual Disk Driver (third-party O-S tool for creating floppy's)
https://www.dosbox.com/wiki/TOOLS:ImDisk_Virtual_Disk_Driver

So, is VDD my best shot? Or should I try to track down H-A-L-9000's "Megabuild" SVN, which still has the feature? He has apparently not updated it for 8(!) years though, so it's likely to cause quite a few issues with my Windows 10...

https://www.dosbox.com/wiki/SVN_Builds#Enhanced_SVN_builds

EDIT: Just realized that VDD seems to just let you create the drive... not the actual images.

EDIT2: Ok... so, WinCDEmu is a thing, seems like a great Open Source program. However, can it create FLOPPY images? Which can then be read by Dosbox? Img -files is apparently the preferred format, if I understand things correctly?

I notice that PowerIso can EASILY create even blank floppy images, but then I would have to get a license and all that...

EDIT3:

Ah-haaH! I do believe I have found the answer! Check this out:

https://superuser.com/questions/342433/how-to … x-windows-guest

I used to use WinImage for creating empty floppy images on Windows. The program is shareware and runs on 32-bit and 64-bit Windo […]
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I used to use WinImage for creating empty floppy images on Windows. The program is shareware and runs on 32-bit and 64-bit Windows 2000, XP, Vista, 7. Since later Windows versions have a compatibility mode I highly assume it will run there too. http://www.winimage.com/download.htm As shareware it can be used for 30 days without restrictions. After 30 days you have to buy it and register if you want to continue using it. Since you only need one empty floppy image as a template, I would keep this image in a safe place, zip it, and unzip a copy every time I need another empty floppy image.

Just download the .zip and start the .exe directly, no installation required. Don't use the virtual floppy driver.

Run winimage.exe and click Ok.
Select New from the File menu.
Choose the format, normally you would select "Standard 1.44 MB".
Select Save from the File menu. Choose .ima as save format and choose a filename.

You can rename filename.ima to filename.dsk or filename.img or whatever you choose for your new empty floppy image.

Another fully open source method is to use vfd, but you need to install the virtual floppy driver first, otherwise you cannot use vfd to format the virtual drive and then save it to a file. vfd only works on Windows 2000 and XP (reported to work also on Vista) 32-bit. http: // vfd.sourceforge.net/

Last but not least you could use Virtual PC to create an empty floppy image. Microsoft has an KB article describing the whole process: https: // support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/825098.

While Emulators and virtual floppy drives certainly are a possibility, using WinImage is the easiest and fastest way to get what you want. And the big advantage is that with WinImage you don't need to install anything.

WinImage appears to be the bees-knees for these simple tasks. : o

Reply 3 of 3, by Doomn00b

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All right, I've finally installed my program! : o

Turns out I'm a dummy, since the two install-files were NOT dos-applications! Instead, they were win-image self-extracting ones... so, I then ran them, and created an image (turns out you don't need both disks, the second disk is just some documentation, and in a format meant for windows) - I then put this image in my virtualhd directory, loaded it with the dosbox imgmount command and installed the program.