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First post, by manchette

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hello i'm using Dos box to run Arena game (abandonware for the elders scroll #1)
it opens a z: invite but i can't find a way to run the Arena106.exe

double clicking on the .exe installs it at the C:\ root though

ps: i know nothing about windows, nor Dos...

i can't type the mount C C:\... command line for i can't find the \ on my keyboard, usually AltGr+8 but not in dos box (azerty keyboard)
thanks

XP SP2

Reply 1 of 21, by MiniMax

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First you need to read this:
The Newbie's Pictorial Guide To DOSBox

The problem with the missing \ can be solved to putting the mount command in the autoexec section of your dosbox.conf file.

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Reply 2 of 21, by manchette

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ok i just read the whole stuff, thks
i switched to qwerty keyboard and got my ' / '
😉
i also have suceeded to go from the Z: invite to the C:\> one 😀

i used the help command but not sure what to do now,
the manual says to do :
cd arena [enter]
then arena106.exe [enter] in my case...

but i've got a pb for the CD command does not work anymore,
neither CHDIR
cd arena or chdir arena produces an error : 'unable to change to arena'

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Reply 3 of 21, by eL_PuSHeR

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Reading the DOSBox guides would prove useful to you. Also, a little understanding about how ms-dos commands work would benefit you. 😎

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Reply 5 of 21, by MiniMax

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  1. Create a directory for your game, e.g. "C:\DOSBox stuff\Arena".
  2. Start DOSBox.
  3. In DOSBox, mount up DOSBox's drive C: and D:

    Z:>mount C "C:\DOSBox stuff\Arena"
    Z:>mount D "C:\path\to\your\unpacked\download\of\arena" -t cdrom
  4. Install the game from D: to C:

    Z:>D:
    D:>install

    (or "setup", or whatever the command to start the installation is called. Check your Manual/Installation Guide for Arena for the exact command to use)
  5. Configure sound, configure graphics, ...

    (when you configure sound and are asked about stuff like IO/IRQ/DMA/High DMA addresses, please verify that you use the same values as listed in "%ProgramFiles%\DOSBox-0.63\dosbox.conf")
  6. Start game.

    D:>C:
    C:>dir
    C:>cd arena
    C:>dir
    C:>arena106

    (or "run", or "play" or whatever the command to start the game is called. Check your Manual/Installation Guide for Arena for the exact command to use)

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Reply 7 of 21, by MiniMax

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* Puzzled * All I get is a blank screen?

I downloaded the game, unpacked it, and (contrary the setup document provided by Qbix) mounted up the unpack directory as C: in DOSBox, and ran the INSTALL.EXE from DOSBox.

Note: Do not use the INSTALL'er to actually install the game. Only use INSTALL.EXE to verify/change the sound/music setup. This will update SOUND.CFG and re-create the ARENA.BAT with the appropriate command line arguments.

Next I ran ARENA.BAT, the DOSBox screen goes blank/black - and then NOTHING!?!

Re-configured with no sound/no music. Did not help.
Tried full and dynamic core. No change.

In summary: I can not get it to work. Any takers?

Update: Searched the forum (which I should have done first - doh!) and used DOSBox 0.61 instead. Works!!!

Ehh 🙁 Now it stopped working??

Time for reboot??

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Reply 9 of 21, by manchette

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(i 'm the 1 who posted the above msg, don't know why it says 'guest' , thus could not edit it)

when i mount c :
z:\>mount c:\JeuxDosBox\Arena106
it answers directory c:\JeuxDosBox\Arena106 does not exist
(same thing with Arena)

i did it before though, can't remember how exactly
it also said cd command ko ( ? )

when i did
mount d:\c:\JeuxDosBox\Arena
it says "Usage Mount Drive-Letter Local-Directory
so a mount c c:\windows mounts windows directory as the c: drive in dos box"
look like information only, did it do it or not ?
then d: [enter]
makes a "Drive D does not exist! "
(... :'( )

*edit* after a restart i realized i've got an arena file in c:\ so a part of it worked, can't figure out when 😀
is there a way i can paste in dos box? , ctrl+v does not work

XP SP2

Reply 10 of 21, by HunterZ

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I should mention Bethesda released Arena as freeware: http://www.elderscrolls.com/tenth_anniv/tenth_anniv.htm

I know I got the CD-ROM version working under DOSBox, which is pretty much the same thing AFAIK. It was a bit taxing on my computer though, running a fine line between choppy graphics (due to less cycles than the game wanted) and full CPU usage (due to more cycles than my CPU could handle). Can't remember whether it was on my old Athlon XP 2600+ or my new 3200+.

Reply 11 of 21, by MiniMax

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I do not know why DOSBox 0.61 suddenly refused to run Arena 1.06, and the reboot did not solve it either.

Anyway, Arena 1.06 seems to work consistenly with 0.60, sometimes with 0.61, and never(?) with 0.62, 0.63 nor with a CVS build from April 10.

As I said in the previous post, I downloaded the self-extracting SFX RAR file Arena106.exe containing "The Elder Scrolls: Arena v1.06", ran it, and extracted the content into an Arena game directory (I:\Downloads\Arena\Unpacked-1.06).

The extraction process created an extra directory named "ARENA" so I ended up with the following directory structure:

I:\Downloads\Arena\Unpacked-1.06
I:> dir ARENA /w

Contents of I:\Downloads\Arena\Unpacked-1.06\ARENA

Spellsg.01 Spellsg.08 Spellsg.02 Spellsg.03 Spellsg.04 Spellsg.07
Spellsg.06 Spellsg.65 Spellsg.09 Spellsg.05 SCROLL03.IMG CHARSPEL.IMG
Arrows.cif Crystal3.inf README.BAT INSTALL.EXE A.EXE Read.me
CONFIG.CPY BOOTEXEC.CPY CHARFNT.DAT FONT_C.DAT FONT_A.DAT FONT_B.DAT
ULTRAMID.EXE ARIAXMID.ADV SBFM.ADV ARIADIG.ADV GENMIDI.ADV GM2.BNK
SAMPLE.AD DAYTIME.COL SBP1FM.ADV NAMECHNK.DAT MT2.BNK CITYTXT
WATERANI.RCI MT1.BNK GM1.BNK SPELLMKR.TXT STARTGAM.MNU 40181409.MIF
CHARSHT.COL ARTFACT2.DAT FONT_S.DAT GUARD.DAT FOG.TXT 41418704.MIF
42068779.MIF FOG.LGT CLASSES.DAT EQUIP.DAT MAPBTNS.MNU 42110737.MIF
END02.FLC 42026882.MIF TEMPLATE.DAT SELLING.DAT 39950681.MIF 42488253.MIF
40852494.MIF 41229981.MIF 40642738.MIF ULTRAMID.INI 40370128.MIF 41649375.MIF
40516921.MIF 42194658.MIF JAGTEMP.DAT TAVERN.DAT SBDIG.ADV ROGUE.CEL
JAGRSHLD.FLC TEENYFNT.DAT SCROLL.FLC PASOPL.ADV SBPDIG.ADV GF1MIDI.ADV
ALGDIG.ADV MT32MPU.ADV SBP2FM.ADV PASFM.ADV ARTFACT1.DAT CHARSPEL.DAT
STATES.65 FONT_D.DAT NORMAL.LGT CITYINTR LAVAANI.RCI WARRIOR.CEL
NAMES2.DAT PAL.COL DUNGEON.TXT FONT4.DAT MUGUILD.DAT GF1DIGI.ADV
MAGE.CEL ADLIBG.ADV VISION.FLC CHAOSVSN.FLC PASDIG.ADV QUESTION.TXT
JAGAR.FLC MORPH.FLC END01.FLC SPPARTS.RCI 2651.GLD GLOBAL.BSA
CITYDATA.65 DREARY.COL JAGARDTH.FLC WARHAFT.FLC KING.FLC ARENAFNT.DAT
TAMRIEL.MNU LOG.65 POINTER1.DAT START.MIF DISKS.BAK EXTRA
SPELLS.65 SPELLS.LST 39699021.MIF WINGAME.XFM TITLE.IMG IMPPAL.MIF
IMPPAL4.INF IMPPAL1.INF IMPPAL3.INF IMPPAL2.INF RANDOM1.MIF HELP.TXT
39300577.MIF VILPAL3.MIF README.TXT BS5.MIF AUTOMAP.00 CITYDATA.00
LOG.00 SPELLS.00 SPELLSG.00 STATES.00 NAMES.DAT WILD001.00
WILD002.00 WILD003.00 WILD004.00 mouse.exe [Docs] NO_LABEL
ARENA.BAT SOUND.CFG DATA_NTF.64 [..] [.]
152 files 21.531.730 bytes
3 folder(s) 546.697.216 bytes free

To top it of, I created a dosbox.conf to mount the directoy and provide a little info on how to get it going:

[autoexec]
@ echo off

mount C "I:\Downloads\Arena\Unpacked-1.06\ARENA"

C:

echo.
echo +==================================+
echo ! Type INSTALL to configure sound. !
echo ! Type ARENA to play. !
echo +==================================+

As it says, run INSTALL, configure the sound/music for Sound Blaster 16, and exit the installer (do not try to install the game!).

Next, type ARENA and play!

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Reply 13 of 21, by manchette

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after a good night of sleep (very impt 😀 )

IT WORKED !!! :p)

i did :
mount c c:\arena
it did mount it :=)
arena command works and install too to config sound and music, left by default

then i added a command at the end of dos box :
mount c c:\JeuxDosBox
c:

so that i begin Dos Box with a C: invite
but my new pb is :

Arena [enter] now says illegal command

+ mount c c:\arena makes a 'drive c already mounted with c:\JeuxDosBox', here is normal i know
what to play now, shall i go inside tha arena directory?
DIR works but cd arena doe not, neither arena alone

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Reply 14 of 21, by DosFreak

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ooookkkkaayy....

When you did a "Mount c c:\Arena", I'm assuming that the ARENA directory was on your host C: drive?

When you did a "Mount c c:\JeuxDosBox", this JeuxDosBox (Geesh, long ass thing to type), is on your c:\ drive too?

Most people create either a C:\DosBox directory or a C:\Games directory and then put all of their games in that.

In your case

HOST SYSTEM

C:\DosBox\Arena

DosBox

Mount c c:\Dosbox

Then DIR ARENA to see the ARENA directory
and cd ARENA to enter the ARENA directory.

It seems like you may be better off with a DosBox FrontEnd like D-FEND. I don't use frontends so I can't help ya there but there purpose is to make things easier for those who don't know the command line very well.

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Reply 15 of 21, by manchette

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yep everything asked for was on C: , i rename my directory DosBox 😀 and put Arena into it
i did what u said :
in Dos box Mount c c:\Dosbox

Then DIR ARENA to see the ARENA directory
and cd ARENA to enter the ARENA directory.
then arena
it WORKS 😀 plus sound too !! thanks A LOT

what's the full screen option again ? i read it, somwhere here, but can't find it anymore
where do i find tips on the game, i've been killed by the 1st goblin 😳

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Reply 17 of 21, by manchette

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ok, it does work now
though i still need to find how t o fight gobelins 😀

i tried another one : alone in the dark
it works too , i ran a go.bat file (kindof an intro to the game? )but then it stops...
**edit** then took the 0.63 DOS BOX instead of .61 and its much better : sound, game plays OK now 😉

though a stupid strange dog kills me... kindof immediatly 😀

still a pb with little big adventure 2 :
mounted c:\
mounted d ...-t cdrom
but the lba2 asks for a cdrom ... didn' i just mount it ?

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Reply 18 of 21, by MiniMax

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Qbix wrote:

hmm try selecting regular soundblaster for sound.

I just finish a session where I tried to select sb1, sb2, sbpro1, ..... instead of sb16, but the result is the same: 0.60 is like Old Faithful - works like a charm every time. 0.61 worked once, and then stopped. 0.62/0.63 never worked.

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