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from 1994/1995?

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Reply 2 of 18, by fitzpatr

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It looks like a PCChips m507.

MT-32 Old, CM-32L, CM-500, SC-55mkII, SC-88Pro, SC-D70, FB-01, MU2000EX
K6-III+/450/GA-5AX/G400 Max/Voodoo2 SLI/CT1750/MPU-401AT/Audigy 2ZS
486 Build

Reply 3 of 18, by Deksor

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Note that there's no L2 cache on it. If you want the best performance out of that board, you should buy a compatible COAST module

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Reply 4 of 18, by chrisNova777

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gdjacobs wrote:

Anything on the flip side?

not really - otherwise id have shown pic on both sides
theres a number 9546-16

after searching for "coast module" on google i got a link back to another vogons thread:
New Socket 7 Build

seems to be the exact same motherboard i have! with some slight differences.. but alot more similiarities then differences

it does say v1.1 on the board so i guess this means its a PCChips m507 v1.1 ?

https://web.archive.org/web/20030223182645/ht … cchips/m525.htm

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Reply 5 of 18, by chrisNova777

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hmm ok that board seems to have 4 pci + 3 isa.. + 1 dimm slott so that cant be right

its still very similar despite those differences maybe its an diff revision?
https://web.archive.org/web/20170308091138/ht … models/pcchips/

the m520 seems closer..
https://web.archive.org/web/20161112230649/ht … cchips/m520.htm
but still has 1dimm slot so no

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Last edited by chrisNova777 on 2017-09-09, 16:54. Edited 4 times in total.

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Reply 6 of 18, by chrisNova777

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ok maybe this is it.. PCChips m519 v1.1
https://web.archive.org/web/20160320004408/ht … cchips/m519.htm

https://web.archive.org/web/20160506121758if_ … chips/m519p.jpg
still some differences with the IDE ports.. so its not a exact match - so its not this oen..

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Reply 7 of 18, by chrisNova777

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https://web.archive.org/web/20160808091248/ht … cchips/m507.htm
ok this might be it i think.. because it has the printer port next to the ide ports !!!!
m507.jpg

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Reply 8 of 18, by chrisNova777

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http://www.motherboard.cz/mb/amptron/pm-7600.htm
this looks like a closer match too

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Reply 10 of 18, by chrisNova777

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the only thing i see is the absence of the keyboard bios on the drwing.. sucks that the web archive didnt pick up the image for that board
actually the m507 cant be right because it doesnt show the VRM either on the drawing.. could that be human error?
err wait - the other diagram i posted above does show the vrm..
https://web.archive.org/web/20160808091248/ht … cchips/m507.htm
confusing

so whats the best cpu for this board... will it take a p200 MMX? or does it need a regular p200?

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Award Bios id string 01/05/96-i430fx-2A59CF54C-00 - 4-72 pin SIMM slots (8-128MEG FPM/EDO) - 0-168pin DIMM slo […]
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Award Bios id string 01/05/96-i430fx-2A59CF54C-00
- 4-72 pin SIMM slots (8-128MEG FPM/EDO)
- 0-168pin DIMM slot
- 3-32bit PCI Bus slots
- 4-16bit ISA slots
- 160pin 256K/512K pipeline cache COAST 3.0+ module optional
- Intel i430FX PCIset chipset
- P55c Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) optional
- Supports 3.3v/3.5v CPU's and clock speeds 1.5x/2x/2.5x/3x.
- 321pin ZIF socket 7 which supports these processors:
INTEL Pentium P54C 75~200 MHz, P55C w/VRM
Cyrix/IBM 6x86 P120+/P150+/P166+, AMD K5 PR75~PR166 CPUs
- Supports 50/60/66 MHz external clock speeds

- Multi-I/O chip supports:
2 PCI Enhanced IDE Ports (Supports 4 Devices PIO 0-4)
2 High Speed Serial Ports (16550 UART Compatible)
1 Enhanced Parallel Port (SPP, EPP, ECP capable)
1 Floppy Drive Port (Supports 2 Floppy Drives)
- Manufactured by: 1437 Hsing Tech Enterprise Co., LTD.
- Sold as: Ability, Amptron, Aristo, Eurone/Matsonic, Houston Tech,
PCWare(Alton), Protac, PcChips, and Sybercom

any advice on what cpu to replace the p75 with?

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Reply 11 of 18, by ODwilly

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I have 2 of these. IIRC the no vrm version tops out at 200mhz while the mmx cpu's require the vrm's split voltages. Both mine came with Cache sticks even. Mine are running P100's but a normal 166 or 200 would be a perfect fit.

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Reply 12 of 18, by lazibayer

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chrisNova777 wrote:
the only thing i see is the absence of the keyboard bios on the drwing.. sucks that the web archive didnt pick up the image for […]
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the only thing i see is the absence of the keyboard bios on the drwing.. sucks that the web archive didnt pick up the image for that board
actually the m507 cant be right because it doesnt show the VRM either on the drawing.. could that be human error?
err wait - the other diagram i posted above does show the vrm..
https://web.archive.org/web/20160808091248/ht … cchips/m507.htm
confusing

so whats the best cpu for this board... will it take a p200 MMX? or does it need a regular p200?

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Award Bios id string 01/05/96-i430fx-2A59CF54C-00 - 4-72 pin SIMM slots (8-128MEG FPM/EDO) - 0-168pin DIMM slo […]
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Award Bios id string 01/05/96-i430fx-2A59CF54C-00
- 4-72 pin SIMM slots (8-128MEG FPM/EDO)
- 0-168pin DIMM slot
- 3-32bit PCI Bus slots
- 4-16bit ISA slots
- 160pin 256K/512K pipeline cache COAST 3.0+ module optional
- Intel i430FX PCIset chipset
- P55c Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) optional
- Supports 3.3v/3.5v CPU's and clock speeds 1.5x/2x/2.5x/3x.
- 321pin ZIF socket 7 which supports these processors:
INTEL Pentium P54C 75~200 MHz, P55C w/VRM
Cyrix/IBM 6x86 P120+/P150+/P166+, AMD K5 PR75~PR166 CPUs
- Supports 50/60/66 MHz external clock speeds

- Multi-I/O chip supports:
2 PCI Enhanced IDE Ports (Supports 4 Devices PIO 0-4)
2 High Speed Serial Ports (16550 UART Compatible)
1 Enhanced Parallel Port (SPP, EPP, ECP capable)
1 Floppy Drive Port (Supports 2 Floppy Drives)
- Manufactured by: 1437 Hsing Tech Enterprise Co., LTD.
- Sold as: Ability, Amptron, Aristo, Eurone/Matsonic, Houston Tech,
PCWare(Alton), Protac, PcChips, and Sybercom

any advice on what cpu to replace the p75 with?

Your board doesn't have VRM installed. The board in the drawing doesn't have VRM installed either. Without VRM you can choose:
1, K6-233 ANR (3.2V) or APR (3.3V), fast, cheap, common, might need BIOS update
2, Pentium 200, cheap and common, supports 1.5x multiplier, but no MMX
3, POD MMX 200, if you want MMX from genuine Intel, but rare and expensive
4, IDT Winchip, slow, cheap, common, not recommended

With VRM you can choose anything up to at least K6-2 with BIOS update.

Reply 13 of 18, by chrisNova777

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i thought the VRM was that jumper block ting next to the cpu?
ok so as long as i get a p200 (without MMX and 1.5 multiplier) than i am good?
theres no COAST modules on ebay atm

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Reply 14 of 18, by chrisNova777

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fitzpatr wrote:

It looks like a PCChips m507.

dont know how i didnt see thsi comment before.. thank you

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Reply 15 of 18, by lazibayer

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chrisNova777 wrote:

i thought the VRM was that jumper block ting next to the cpu?
ok so as long as i get a p200 (without MMX and 1.5 multiplier) than i am good?
theres no COAST modules on ebay atm

VRM looks like this and it can be inserted into the jumper block.
Yes P200 should work out of the box.
Buying COAST is tricky because many sellers have no idea what they are so they just list them with genetic names such as computer cards, memory stick, etc. Same with VRM.

Reply 16 of 18, by chrisNova777

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trying to find a case now that fits this motherboard.. as its just sitting on my desk
its about the size of a peice of paper 8.5 x 11" so i think its a BABY AT form factor?
cant seem to find any vintage AT towers for sale in Canada

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Reply 17 of 18, by ODwilly

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You should be able to mount it in most early ATX cases. There are usually mounting points for AT and ATX in available.

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Reply 18 of 18, by chrisNova777

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ODwilly wrote:

You should be able to mount it in most early ATX cases. There are usually mounting points for AT and ATX in available.

what year is early ATX?
1997?
i kind of either want to do this "Right"
and make it look like a proper pentium 133Mhz or 166mhz (its got a pentium 75mhz right now)
hopefully with a little LCD readout that can be configured to display the mhz..
ike one would have looked in 1995.. either a tower or a desktop
any links to cases for sale are very greatly appreciated!

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