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First post, by red_avatar

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I've got this weird "problem" - I have multiple 120GB SSDs which I love using for Windows 98 machines (since 128GB is the limit there anyway) but with my new Pentium II (ASUS P2L97 with P2 333) I've run into something I've never seen before: it detects a Sandisk 240gb & 480gb just fine BUT it won't detect Sandisk or PNY 120gb. All drives wiped clean beforehand.

Does anyone have any idea what could be the cause? Do the 120GB SSDs use a different type of controller perhaps that has certain compatibility issues? I'll be using a 240GB for now but it would be easier if I knew if there were 120GB options that would be compatible.

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Reply 1 of 5, by rasz_pl

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Bios doesnt like whatever this drive IDENTIFY DRIVE command returns

http://www.os2museum.com/wp/identify-ancient-drive/
someone linked http://www.ata-atapi.com/atademo.html in comments, apparently you can use this to compare your drives

https://github.com/raszpl/sigrok-disk FM/MFM/RLL decoder
https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module (AT&T Globalyst)
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 ram board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad

Reply 2 of 5, by aaron158

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have u check if there are any firmware updates for the drives. are u using a sata to ide or a sata pci card.

Reply 3 of 5, by red_avatar

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aaron158 wrote on 2022-02-03, 22:45:

have u check if there are any firmware updates for the drives. are u using a sata to ide or a sata pci card.

I'm using a Sata-to-IDE adapter. The adapter has so far worked for pretty much every PC I've used it with though.

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IBM PS1 386SX25 - 4MB
IBM Aptiva 486SX33 - 8MB - 2GB CF - SB16
IBM PC350 P233MMX - 64MB - 32GB SSD - AWE64 - Voodoo2
PIII600 - 320MB - 480GB SSD - SB Live! - GF4 Ti 4200
i5-2500k - 3GB - SB Audigy 2 - HD 4870

Reply 4 of 5, by aaron158

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red_avatar wrote on 2022-02-03, 22:52:
aaron158 wrote on 2022-02-03, 22:45:

have u check if there are any firmware updates for the drives. are u using a sata to ide or a sata pci card.

I'm using a Sata-to-IDE adapter. The adapter has so far worked for pretty much every PC I've used it with though.

i had an issue with another asus board from the P3 era when using a sata to ide it would pick the drive up fine but u could not do fdisk or if u pre formatted does would just say it couldn't access it. tired 3 dif sata to ides finally gave up and switch to a pci sata card first a silicon image one that worked awful.

so i got a promise sata 150 card on someone else suggestion. i had to get the maxtor rebranded version as finding the promise version is much tougher to find but it has worked perfectly on many asus and intel brand boards I've tired it with.

just have to make sure the chip on the card is the sata 150 and not the sata II 150 or sata II 300 as those ones don't have 98 drivers.

Reply 5 of 5, by red_avatar

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aaron158 wrote on 2022-02-03, 23:35:

i had an issue with another asus board from the P3 era when using a sata to ide it would pick the drive up fine but u could not do fdisk or if u pre formatted does would just say it couldn't access it. tired 3 dif sata to ides finally gave up and switch to a pci sata card first a silicon image one that worked awful.

so i got a promise sata 150 card on someone else suggestion. i had to get the maxtor rebranded version as finding the promise version is much tougher to find but it has worked perfectly on many asus and intel brand boards I've tired it with.

just have to make sure the chip on the card is the sata 150 and not the sata II 150 or sata II 300 as those ones don't have 98 drivers.

I have the Promise Ultra66 which would probably work fine as well - and it has Windows 98 drivers - but I guess I'll just stick to the 240GB drive. The main reason I wanted a smaller drive, was because I do raw backups so I can fully recover a drive no matter how it's damaged and recovering a 240GB drive takes an hour longer than a 128GB drive. I posted another topic because I had another idea though - instead of recovering the drive completely, I can just copy back the Program Files & Windows folder to fix any broken element in Windows. Only when the drive itself gets damaged, I'd have to recover it with the raw backup but that's a rare occurrence.

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IBM PS1 386SX25 - 4MB
IBM Aptiva 486SX33 - 8MB - 2GB CF - SB16
IBM PC350 P233MMX - 64MB - 32GB SSD - AWE64 - Voodoo2
PIII600 - 320MB - 480GB SSD - SB Live! - GF4 Ti 4200
i5-2500k - 3GB - SB Audigy 2 - HD 4870