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Reply 680 of 755, by pshipkov

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no bus divider is not fully stable (yet at least).
so far the best i got is 3x66, 1:2/3, bios on max.

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Reply 681 of 755, by Chadti99

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How are you setting a 1:2/3 bus ratio on the LSD? I thought JP19 sets either 1:1 or 1:1/2. This assumption is based on an old thread, I’ve never measured it for certain.

Reply 682 of 755, by pshipkov

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Ack.
My bad.
Everywhere i wrote 2/3 should be 1/2.
I guess it wrote that in my first respond to Feipoa and then just kept repeating myself. 😖

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Reply 683 of 755, by Chadti99

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Dang, was really hoping you were aware of a jumper combo for it.

Reply 684 of 755, by feipoa

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Don't forget that the LSD doesn't work with the on-board floppy controller at 66 MHz. Perhaps this can be circumvented by using an I/O card or LS-120. One of the issues i've run into with LS-120 drives is that once the DOS driver is loaded, the LS-120 drive doesn't always work correctly once booted into Win9x.

All the SiS 496 boards can only do 1:1 or 1:1/2 to PCI. Later UMC 8881 boards have the 1:1, 1:1/2, and 1:2/3. I'm going off of a 10-year old memory, but I recall that the PCI bus divisor comes from the UMC chipset while SiS 496 requires the 1:1/2 to come fro the PLL clock generator chip on the motherboard.

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Reply 685 of 755, by pshipkov

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Yep.
Over the last 2 days i spent time testing 200MHz Am5x86 chips on VLI UUD and other boards.
I guess i was at UUD while responding here and the 1:2/3 divider was fresh in my head.

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Reply 686 of 755, by maxtherabbit

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feipoa wrote on 2022-05-09, 03:23:

Don't forget that the LSD doesn't work with the on-board floppy controller at 66 MHz. Perhaps this can be circumvented by using an I/O card or LS-120. One of the issues i've run into with LS-120 drives is that once the DOS driver is loaded, the LS-120 drive doesn't always work correctly once booted into Win9x.

All the SiS 496 boards can only do 1:1 or 1:1/2 to PCI. Later UMC 8881 boards have the 1:1, 1:1/2, and 1:2/3. I'm going off of a 10-year old memory, but I recall that the PCI bus divisor comes from the UMC chipset while SiS 496 requires the 1:1/2 to come fro the PLL clock generator chip on the motherboard.

lucky star used a couple different super IO chips - this may not be true of every single board

Reply 687 of 755, by galanopu

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Well, here is my first try 😀 . I got 3 x 64 = 192 MHz. 3.9V stable with perltier.
Unfortunately I am a bit late to the party, and a bit unlucky with my CPUs.
My M/B is also an older revision and does not support EDO ram.
Got some relative good results (I think).

Video:
https://youtu.be/PZ82WlMuG7k

Benchmark results:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hUfLI … w6Dlv7xmWyDDUFT

PS: I have a month now a custom PCB for 1MB L2 mod. Waiting for chips.
The first packet got returned 🙁

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Reply 688 of 755, by Chadti99

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Fantastic results! Where can I learn more about the custom clock generator? Looking forward to updates!

Reply 689 of 755, by galanopu

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Chadti99 wrote on 2022-05-19, 17:43:

Fantastic results! Where can I learn more about the custom clock generator? Looking forward to updates!

Thank you, Here... 😜
https://youtu.be/odcH80wiiPs

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Reply 690 of 755, by feipoa

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CPUGalaxy's 486 Quake record has been beaten for some time now by users pshipkov and Chadti99. I think they are at 22.6 - 22.8 fps.

The custom any clock device is interesting. I'd personally like to see a plug-in replacement for DIP-14 PLL's found on many of the socket 3 PCI systems, e.g. UM9515-01. My interests would be to fine tune a Cyrix 5x86-133/4x chip. We know 150 Mhz is too much for it, so some tuning in the 135-145 MHz range would be fun. I recall running into fully programmable PLL's in the past, but never used them. Swapping the MB's crystal that feeds the PLL doesn't work well in this case because it renders other systems inoperable, like the floppy diskette.

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Reply 691 of 755, by galanopu

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Binning / Testing 14 Am5x86 CPUs. The 190% Overclock on Am486-DX2-66 and the Unreal 70MHz 486 Bus!
Enjoy...
https://youtu.be/dwYBq7K7h-Y

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Reply 693 of 755, by galanopu

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Chadti99 wrote on 2022-08-14, 22:35:
galanopu wrote on 2022-06-09, 20:40:

Binning / Testing 14 Am5x86 CPUs. The 190% Overclock on Am486-DX2-66 and the Unreal 70MHz 486 Bus!
Enjoy...
https://youtu.be/dwYBq7K7h-Y

Another great video! I just noticed your 110Mhz OC on a POD83, very cool!

Thank you 😀

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Reply 694 of 755, by The Serpent Rider

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70 Mhz PCI - now this is getting ludicrous!

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Reply 695 of 755, by Disruptor

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For FSB overclocking experiments I also use an Am486 DX4 / 120 with 2x multiplicator.

Reply 696 of 755, by CachoAlpuy

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I have a pkm033s and I can't get it to work with 60ns ram with fastest setting in the bios. It always hangs or gives errors when entering dos. What could be the problem?

Reply 697 of 755, by BitWrangler

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feipoa wrote on 2022-05-19, 20:45:

We know 150 Mhz is too much for it

Do we? I'm fairly sure I had one boot and get into windows at 3x50 but it was unstable, but I didn't try adding even a smidge of voltage. I'm not even sure my setup was configured right for 50mhz stability at the time. I guess it's not like anyone has a full tray to cherry pick from though.

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Reply 698 of 755, by pshipkov

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Most likely a level 2 cache related issue.
I have one of these. It is a slow assembly, fussy about l2 cache chips.
Disable the l2 cache from bios and that will get you in DOS.
Then spend time to find a combination of them that the board likes.

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Reply 699 of 755, by CachoAlpuy

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pshipkov wrote on 2022-12-02, 05:28:
Most likely a level 2 cache related issue. I have one of these. It is a slow assembly, fussy about l2 cache chips. Disable the l […]
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Most likely a level 2 cache related issue.
I have one of these. It is a slow assembly, fussy about l2 cache chips.
Disable the l2 cache from bios and that will get you in DOS.
Then spend time to find a combination of them that the board likes.

Maybe i should get faster than 15ns cache?